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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: Ranch13] #16289123 07/27/21
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Ten-4, Thanks again, if i ever have 'Smith screw my 45-70 barrel back on my #3 sporter 45-70 i may look for a mold just to cast some up and see how they shoot.


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: gunner500] #16290105 07/28/21
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Well if I remember , when I start casting again this fall/winter, I'll get a bunch cast up and send you some.


the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to.
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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: APDDSN0864] #16290166 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Don, some of us never got into smoking dope as kids because we couldn't handle rolling papers. So...it's greasers for us! grin

Ed


LOL, we had a hemp rope factory 6 miles from here and hemp is still growing in the fence lines like bull thistles laugh but as kids we never smoked it but dried out corn silk stuffed in a corncob with a elderberry stem made a good corn cob pipe for the silk LOL.

Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: Ranch13] #16290626 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by Ranch13
Well if I remember , when I start casting again this fall/winter, I'll get a bunch cast up and send you some.


Thanks Ranch, if i dont have the barrel on my 45-70 i can always shoot them in the red headed step-child 45 3-1/4 inch, that non-factory classless sob will eat anything ; ]


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16291439 07/28/21
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I haven't tried that bullet in either the 2.4 or the 2 7/8 but it should work well. for a greaser


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: Ranch13] #16291531 07/28/21
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I bet it will, my 45 3-1/4 is a really good shooting rifle, just a ladder barrel sight hunting rifle, i only shoot the 1881 Saeco in it, i absolutely refuse to paper patch for that rifle, talk about a massive attempt at overcompensation ; ]


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16296316 07/30/21
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I'm kinda contrary towards little bullets in big bores. I use BP also.

Lyman 457125 casts at 530 gr with 30:1 alloy
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Someday I'll install a scope maybe and use a full bag rest just to see what it will do. Until then I'll just watch the buffalo soil their knickers.
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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: DigitalDan] #16301721 08/01/21
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Dang good stuff Dan, that big Lyman is a stoner on all critters, great and small, fine shooting Sir.


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16304091 08/01/21
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Fond of those bullets I am. Makes me think of an old line attributed to Hitler’s boys. “Torpedos Los!”


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: DigitalDan] #16311388 08/04/21
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You bet Dan, i've heard from Bagwelll about those bullets he used on countless animals, i was also privileged to be on a buffalo [bison] hunt where two friends of Bill's and i used that big Lyman over black powder in 45-70 and 45-90 Sharps rifles, one guy shot his buffalo in the chest at 60 yards, the bull turned to walk away and fell, the butcher found that bullet in his pelvis bones, i guess near 7-8 feet of penetration.

The other guy shot his through both shoulders, was reloading his rifle when his bull fell for keeps, no bullet recoveries on that one, with those guys, and everything Bill ever said is that big Lyman does three things best of all, quick killer, penetrates dead straight, and you can shoot it to a thousand yards, sounds like a damn tall order to beat imho.


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: APDDSN0864] #16325319 08/09/21
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Ed, I wanted a bullet to match the # 121 profile that would drop a larger diameter and carry plenty of lube so had Tom fix me up with this 46-500Y to drop .459 since both my PH molds drop puny diameters ..

At 30;1 this one drops 505 grs and groups way better than I can shoot !


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: FlyboyFlem] #16329689 08/10/21
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Good looking casting job Woody, favors Bill's old favorite the 480gr Lyman.


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: gunner500] #16332003 08/11/21
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Good looking casting job Woody, favors Bill's old favorite the 480gr Lyman.


Thanks Jerry that was the intent since his old favorite shot so well however as I said my molds drop so puny you could almost PP them if a few thou smaller.
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LOL, i'm past ready for some frosty fall hunting my Friend!


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16336495 08/12/21
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Woody,

That's a good looking bullet! I bet my .458 WM would like that one!

My Lyman 121 mould drops 20:1 alloy at .456". When I was complaining to Bill about the undersized bullets, he just grinned and told me to go shoot them over 65.5gr of KIK 2f and see what happens.

Well, what happened was, I came back to Bills one day with 115 of those loaded up and we proceeded to shoot all of them on his home range.

My best group of that day was four shots at his 300 meter pig that was 1.75" wide and 3" tall. I was trying to hit that little 4" square plate he had sitting next to the pig, but the sun was shining on the side of the front blade and I was holding too far to the right.

I just opened the safe up and fondled my Sharps. I really need to get it back out and shoot it.

A good friend of mine once told me that a good job will ruin a man's life. I think he might be right. I just don't have time to do everything I want to do! grin

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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16343609 08/15/21
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This is a great Thread!!!

Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: HunterShooter58] #16352946 08/18/21
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Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
This is a great Thread!!!


Yes Sir it is HS58, after talking with Kirk out at Shiloh Rifles, i have cast up some 40 cal paper patch bullets from 40 to 1 alloy, done a double soft this morning with two 5lb bags of pure lead with one 20 to 1 puck from a muffin tin Wife gave me to pour and store my lead in, these are really soft paper patch bullets for my 44-77 Sharps Bottleneck, they weigh 480 grains, think they'll do fine for deer and pigs this season.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
This is a great Thread!!!


Yes Sir it is HS58, after talking with Kirk out at Shiloh Rifles, i have cast up some 40 cal paper patch bullets from 40 to 1 alloy, done a double soft this morning with two 5lb bags of pure lead with one 20 to 1 puck from a muffin tin Wife gave me to pour and store my lead in, these are really soft paper patch bullets for my 44-77 Sharps Bottleneck, they weigh 480 grains, think they'll do fine for deer and pigs this season.


I like that, Jerry!
I bet before your Wife gave you those Tins, she filled em with Muffins, for you! Good Woman!
You've been blessed my friend!

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
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Originally Posted by HunterShooter58
This is a great Thread!!!


Yes Sir it is HS58, after talking with Kirk out at Shiloh Rifles, i have cast up some 40 cal paper patch bullets from 40 to 1 alloy, done a double soft this morning with two 5lb bags of pure lead with one 20 to 1 puck from a muffin tin Wife gave me to pour and store my lead in, these are really soft paper patch bullets for my 44-77 Sharps Bottleneck, they weigh 480 grains, think they'll do fine for deer and pigs this season.


I like that, Jerry!
I bet before your Wife gave you those Tins, she filled em with Muffins, for you! Good Woman!
You've been blessed my friend!

Enjoy!


You're exactly right HS58, imagine if you will giant blueberry muffins made with wheat/coconut/graham flour [she's going for health] with so many blueberries inside when she dumps the tin out they rupture, crack open, and oooz that blueberry syrup? goodness all over the place, she'll spatula you up a couple in a small bowl and hand you a cup of coffee, and no Sir, i dont rate that either ; ]


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Re: general purpose target bullet for 45/70 [Re: rider] #16373659 08/25/21
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You guys are having entirely too much fun! smile

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