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Gunmaker Remington Arms Co. has offered around $33 million to settle a lawsuit brought by nine families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre.

Remington Arms Co. LLC and Remington Outdoors Co. Inc., collectively referred to as "Remington," offered $3.66 million to each of the nine plaintiffs in the lawsuit against them over the 2012 Newtown, Conn., mass shooting, which left 20 children and six adults dead.

Adam Lanza, 20, used Remington's Bushmaster XM-15 to carry out the elementary school massacre before killing himself.

Lawyers for the families said they will "consider their next steps," in response to this offer.

A federal law protects gun manufacturers from wrongful death lawsuits brought forth by family members, but in their 2014 lawsuit, the families of the Sandy Hook victims instead sought to hold Remington responsible for marketing practices that praised the militaristic qualities of their rifles, potentially in violation of Connecticut law.

Remington, the oldest gun manufacturer in the U.S., had appealed to the Supreme Court in 2019 to reverse a decision by the Connecticut Supreme Court to allow the case to go to trial, but the court declined to take it up.

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Last year, Remington filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy for the second time in two years.

Earlier this month, the lawyers representing the nine families said Remington had given them a strange collection of tens of thousands of cartoons, video files and GIFS in documents turned over to them. According to court documents the cartoons depicted “people go-karting riding dirt bikes, and socializing."

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They didn’t pull the trigger.

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Bad precedent.

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Setting a pretty bad precedent.

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Dont like the settlement offer but I can understand it. Chances are good any jury up there could have a lot of gun grabber twats on it that would love to make some headlines on CNN with a gazillion dollar verdict.

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The woman that produced the egg that that braindead f~cktard was hatched from was the lowest common denominator in this equation, if that genetic link had never occurred, then the world would have been a better place.

Its had to believe that anyone so dumb could even feed a child after the titty milk dried up, let alone pass a back ground check to even buy a gun !


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It's not even the same remington. New owners and besides, this is a horrible precedent to set. Different dumbass remington under new owners. Wow.

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Someone accidentally sent their /k/ folder.

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Would be more correct to sue the dumbass parents and school officials who didn't notice this psycho for almost 20 years.

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Id go fuggin broke fighting it

Big Green didnt pull the trigger.

That damn woman should have not kept guns around, let alone let her kid shoot, if he was not of sound mind.

However, by settling out of court there is no legal ruling against Remington.

But theyve opened the door IMHO for extortion by others.

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This is how they will confiscate our guns. Lawsuits that claim the gun manufacturer had unfair advertisements, and they settle for millions and drive the gun maker out of business.

And this is who will confiscate our guns. This picture is included with this original story on AP:
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FILE - In this Jan. 28, 2013, file photo, firearms training unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson, of the Connecticut State Police, holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, for a demonstration during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws, at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford, Conn. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill, File)


Here she is. Detective Mattson of the State Patrol, holding the demonic rifle that killed the kids at Sandy Hook. A chubby 55 year old Lesbo with titties sagging down to her gun belt. If the Governor gives the orders she will be glad to confiscate your guns. She looks like a real warrior it makes the citizens feel safe to know that she is on duty. Probably knocking down $110K a year.

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He didn't buy the weapon, so their marketing didn't work on him. His mother bought it and he killed her and took it.

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So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.


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that seems like a huge f'ing mistake, especially for a company in bankruptcy

you gotta go to court on this during a time when the AR-15 is the most popular gun sold.

Of course the risk is the plaintiff showing bodies of young children shot to a runaway jury, but you are just asking for every gun shot victim to go after you

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Would be more correct to sue the dumbass parents and school officials who didn't notice this psycho for almost 20 years.

This.....

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Maybe the entire point of buying the company was so they could establish this precedent.

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Remingtons new owners are off to a great start.
If you like gun rights losses

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Originally Posted by renegade50
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Would be more correct to sue the dumbass parents and school officials who didn't notice this psycho for almost 20 years.

This.....

They dedd too

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Originally Posted by KFWA
that seems like a huge f'ing mistake, especially for a company in bankruptcy

you gotta go to court on this during a time when the AR-15 is the most popular gun sold.

Of course the risk is the plaintiff showing bodies of young children shot to a runaway jury, but you are just asking for every gun shot victim to go after you

A slush fund was probably set up for this thru the Bankruptcy..

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Originally Posted by slumlord
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Would be more correct to sue the dumbass parents and school officials who didn't notice this psycho for almost 20 years.

This.....

They dedd too

Good....

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Another nail in Remington's coffin.



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Originally Posted by RufusG
Maybe the entire point of buying the company was so they could establish this precedent.


Bingo. Soros probably has something to do with it.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.


^^^This^^^

Fugg Remington.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.


Where does it stop?

Michelin
Valvoline
Interstate
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That will set a really bad precedent for future lawsuits against other firearms manufacturers.

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All those car commercials showing their Go-fast cars, Dodge and Toyota come to mind for recent commercials where the cars are burning out/drifting/etc. Are they now subject to lawsuits as they are promoting that kind of behavior.

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Personally, I think Remington should go to trial on this. But, entering into a private settlement agreement does not set precedent.

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Settles it for me, never again buying a new Remington.


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Wouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers went into the pool to make sure this doesn't go to trial and become a precedent. Why the Supremes didn't take this is beyond my comprehension.
There WILL be another case.


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This is very stupid of Remington, I'll never purchase a Remington product again.


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Originally Posted by RufusG
Maybe the entire point of buying the company was so they could establish this precedent.


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I suspect the the owners of Remington cut a fat deal with the antigun types to “set” this precedent! Remington is a has been company with a failed reputation. The “fat deal” made more for the owners than would have been made selling firearms.......and in one big paycheck. The first domino has been tipped! JMO ! memtb


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So they got sued for making a product that worked as designed. Can anyone in this phaggit azz country blame the damn criminal???


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Originally Posted by rickt300
Settles it for me, never again buying a new Remington.


Yep.


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Originally Posted by shinbone
Personally, I think Remington should go to trial on this. But, entering into a private settlement agreement does not set precedent.


No but it goes into the Lexis Database which any lawyer can access. It will cause a lot more lawsuits against Remington.


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Originally Posted by shinbone
Personally, I think Remington should go to trial on this. But, entering into a private settlement agreement does not set precedent.

Huh?


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Lawsuit was bullshit, but why 9 plaintiffs with 26 victims? More individual suits to follow?


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Originally Posted by LRoyJetson
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So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.

Where does it stop?

Michelin
Valvoline
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Don't forget there's gas in that car.


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Jus bizness.

Company's worth way more than the settlement amount, with the litigation out of the way.

They could wait years and win, but lose way more $ from the delay in bein able ta sell the business.

Purely economic decision, that will be milked ta death by the ministry of propaganda.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.

Same idea with a drunk driver

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Originally Posted by Nebraska
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Maybe the entire point of buying the company was so they could establish this precedent.


Ding-ding-ding!!!!! We have a WINNER!!!

On a shooting that never happened.

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Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Originally Posted by LRoyJetson
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.

Where does it stop?

Michelin
Valvoline
Interstate
Gates
Motorcraft
Bendix
+ all other parts mfg. in car?

Don't forget there's gas in that car.

Or my insurance company,should they assume risk?

How about the DMV that tested and licensed me? Surely they would be most responsible??


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What about loosing all your money because you got addicted to gambling, would you sue the casinos for using slots or the state for their scratch off tickets.

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Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
Setting a pretty bad precedent.


Exactly !


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Why? Remington did nothing wrong. Don't capitulate to the enemy.



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
So if a terrorist drives a Chevy into a crowd, killing twenty, the families of the dead can demand millions from Chevrolet? How stupid of Remington.


Change that Chevrolet to AM General/ HumVee, and have the plaintiffs argue the Company had

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marketing practices that praised the militaristic qualities of their rifles vehicles, potentially in violation of Connecticut law.


and the answer might be that the families of the dead could demand millions from HumVee.

I'd guess that in the financial situation Remington is in presently, they figure it's cheaper to avoid the court case than it is to just pay. Were they to lose, who knows what the award might be?


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Maybe the entire point of buying the company was so they could establish this precedent.


Bingo. Soros probably has something to do with it.




Reckon we’re well past probably.


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I guess when Remington saw George Floyd's heirs get $27 million they had a sudden change of heart! Damn shame.

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