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I purchased a used Savage 111 LR Hunter and finally got a chance to put a bore scope down the barrel. I've seen dirt roads that look less washboardy! I knew it had been shot quite a bit, but I got it for such a great deal, I was willing to chance it knowing I may have to rebarrel eventually. My question is who do you experts here on the fire recommend do the rebarrel job, brand of barrel and what can I expect for cost and turn around time? I'm thinking factory contour, stainless and finished at 26".

Thanks for the replys in advance!

Elk Country

Probably shoot it first. But if not, ship this barrel directly to Shooter71 and send your current action to him. You'd be up and running in no time.

http://www.bugholes.com/product-p/x-6.5mm-8tw-ss-2b-27.htm

Savage with a barrel nut? Buy a prefit barrel, action wrench and go gauge. Literally a 10 minute job.


Lots of places make savage prefits.

Criterion

I have had great luck with PacNor barrels installed by their smiths. I have had three done so far.

But on a Savage, I have purchased the barrel nut wrench and have a barrel vice on my reloading table (MidwayUSA). A good barrel from Criterion or McGowan can be had for $370.

Better match grade barrels can be obtained from other manufacturers. How much would you like to spend?

If one is unsure of the tools needed to do your own barrel swap, or procedures involved, give these guys a call.

Sharp Shooter Supply - The Savage Specialists
http://www.sharpshootersupply.com

or:
https://northlandshooterssupply.com
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If one is not enamored of the 6.5x284, one has a multitude of chamber choices when rebarrelling a long action Savage rifle with a standard .473" bolt face.

My savage wears an X-caliber barrel and shoots lights out. Swapped it myself...

Shilen sells "drop in" barrels for Savage 110 series rifles.

I have several Shilen barrels on Mauser, Remington, Ruger, and Savage rifles. All have proven to be quite accurate and easy to clean.

Dan Coffin built mine on a Lilja.

As for timelines, he usually is fairly quick but most every other gunsmith I have used has been on their own fairytale time. A one month estimation usually equals one year, if I bug them a lot. I do not recall the cost.

i have a 6.5 on a 30-06 case and it shoots great. you can purchased most barrels at a cost of under $400 but I would suggest a 8 twist and at least 26" for accuracy . I use a 140gr. burger and reloader powder and the gun will shoot bugholes at 100 yrds. also make sure your smitty knows you want to be able to load the bullet to the lanz. good luck and any further info I might be able to help you with let me know,

WOW! Lots of great info from you guys! I’m leaning towards shooting first to see how well it shoots, then make a decision. This gun isn’t going to be a competition gun so I’m not looking for 1/4moa, just a fun antelope/deer gun that I may shoot out to maybe 5-600yds. If it shoots 1/2-3/4moa, I would be very happy with that. I bought some 139gr Scenars, Norma brass and have a few pounds of RL26.

If/when I decide to switch out barrels, I’m most likely going to do it myself. That sounds like a cool project and save some time and money!! I’ve kinda always wanted a 6.5-06 AI but I’m pretty happy with the 6.5 x 284 and will stick with that cartridge

Love the replies y’all! Keep them coming!

Elk Country

That barrel probably left Savage with a washboard surface down the bore, My brother had one in 6.5x284 that was rough as a plowed field but shot ok and was terrible to clean......Any of the forementioned prefits would be an upgrade.

I'd buy a Criterion from Northland Shooter Supply, again.
If you buy a Shilen it's gonna be cheaper to get it through a broker than it will be to buy direct. Jerry The Barrel Man or Northland have both handled mine.

You've already heard, Buy the wrench and headspace gauge. Watch some youtube videos on a Savage barrel swap and we can help steer you bit too.

My Savage barrel swap was to a 22-243 AI. No proper head space gauges available.

I placed a freshly necked down 243 case into the chamber and placed one thickness of carbon paper from a credit card machine behind the cartridge, in front of the bolt. Screwed the barrel up to contact the cartridge and tightened the barrel nut.

When done, the bolt closed freely on the brass, but would not close with two thicknesses of carbon paper. Though I do not know where you will find an old fashioned credit card machine these days.

It was headspaced perfectly for my ammunition.

If one is working with other than a wildcat, same procedure with a factory cartridge. (Pull the bullet, and dump the powder first)

Or buy a go-no go set of head space gauges from Midway. It appears a set for the 284 will run about $100. If you get there before they are gone.

If you do it yourself. You should have a go-gage at minimum. By a set of cheap feeler gauges and use scissors to cut a circle to use to set head space. I would use a .003" leaf

Jeezus Fhuqk you CLUELESS Droolers are a hoot! Now you are cutting out doilies and using Headspace Scissors? Do you rent an unknown foot,to fit boots before purchase too? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!

Call James as cited,roll Criterion and forget all things Shilen. Nab some good brass,which sure as fhuqk ain't Norma and simply set positive headspace to same. Positive means you feel/see bolt resistance and a Sharpie smear upon the casehead and datum of same. I'd MUCH prefer to mechanically locate false shoulders via 284 Virgins,sized in my 6.5-284 die,over arbitrary placement of the datum by the Factory and especially fhuqking Norma. Positive resistance means case life,Precision and Safety. If you feel nothing,it's time to be aspooked,for opposite reasons. Hint.












It's never been difficult to savvy who shoots and who don't. Hint.

P.S. and by the way...don't forget that a 6.5-284 shooting ping Pong balls,will be eclipsed by a 264 Kreed' shooting good ones. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................

Go ahead and shoot the donor. Give it the best cleaning you're willing to do. Ugly lookie can be pretty shootie. You could also attack the bore with lapping compound, pour yourself some lapping jags and bring a dead one back to life, at least for a while.

I've got several 10/110 actions and Stick is pretty much correct. Cases properly FL sized in your dies with a bit (for me, not a lot, one or two fingers worth) of preload hasn't presented any issues while giving minimal case working upon firing. Brass shim stock (KS) discs are effective as verification of working headspace.
If you want a gage, then get a gage. If you trust yourself and are careful, you can try the case method. But that will be a custom headspace and factory loads might not be a good idea without careful verification.

GOOD brass,GOOD dies and a False Shoulder,fueled with a shred of sense,has NO fhuqking equal. Thus the propensity. Hint.

Doing so,simply indexes the datum for finite control and if/when forced to slum some schit over the counter,it is a breeze to remove the striker assembly and KNOW how same interacts,in regards to finite headspace CONTROL. "Magic Scissors" and paper or metal doilies,will NOT/can NOT do same. Most are 100% fhuqking CLUELESS in how to set up a Sizer or a Seating Die,which never ain't not hilarious. Hint.

Positive Headspace is THE Gift that keeps on giving,as it correlates Case Life,Precision and Safety. Hint.

Coupla thousand words,in regards to THE Incredible HULK(280 SALAMI) and Lapooey false shouldered 'Twat-Six Virgins,to a Square Smooch ala 180 ELD. never trim a case,again. Hint.









Barrels are too cheap and a consumable by default,to fhuqk around and chase one's tail with. The only thing I put in my bores,are fhuqking bullets,save an initial Baseline Cleaning and/or Saltwater Immersion(it happens). Hint.

Bolt resistance upon a sized case,is a Rifle's BEST Friend. Once nipped...simply kiss,find pressure and rock on. Hint...................

I’ve put on about a half dozen criterions for myself & friends and all have shot fantastic.

Criterions are pretty much a no brainer when rebarreling a savage.

Brass is always an unknown. Smart to use gauges. You might get lucky with using brass but you might end up with a chamber that is too tight or too loose.

I may have chambered up a barrel or a hundred...

DUMBfhuqk...brass is KNOWN,if given a thunk greater than you can manage. Hint.

GOOD brass,GOOD dies and a False Shoulder,fueled with a shred of sense,has NO fhuqking equal. Thus the propensity. Hint.

No need to reiterate,that you are an INCREDIBLY fhuqking sloooowwwwwww "learner". Hint.

Just how in the fhuqk are "Magic Scissors" and a fhuqking doilie,going to curtail ANYTHING? Gals who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will always be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............