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Hey folks,

Just wanted to put in yet another plug for the old 250 Savage. Other forum members love it, and based on their reports I built my first in 2015 using a Savage Axis Stainless receiver as the platform and a 22.8” / 1-10 twist stainless sporter barrel that I ordered from ER Shaw. While I’ve built multiple rifles using the Axis as the platform—17 Remington, 222 Rem, 1-9 twist 22-250, 243 Win, 7mm-08, 25-06—the 250 Sav stands out for low blast and recoil, with a wider range of game applications than the rest. It has been particularly gratifying to update this classic with full pressure loads appropriate to a modern bolt action, using some of the latest powders (CFE223, Leverevolution, Reloader 16, IMR 7828 SSC, and now StaBall 6.5). 90 grain bullets at 3250 - 3300 FPS, 100 gr at 3000-3100, and 117-120 at 2800 to 2900 are all readily achievable loads in a modern bolt gun.

I’m glad to share load data with anyone who wants it. I’m looking forward to the arrival of my new 20” stainless barrel from Shaw, in order to build a handier woods version of the first one from 2015. These days I ask myself regularly, why in the world did I wait so long to discover this gem from the past? Why all the rage for the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm ARC, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc, when we’ve had the 250 Savage all along? I know, each has his favorites, but for my purposes, the 250 could replace all the rest. It really is an overlooked masterpiece of cartridge design. And so easy to load for!

Good afternoon to all, and thanks to all of you who influenced me to resurrect this little wonder.

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Knock yourself out. For the rest of us, now is a bad time to start futzing around with a new cartridge.

I often compare TOP Grendel loads with original .250 ones, and they don’t fare too badly. Just noticed yesterday that the .250 looks like one that does well with Sta Ball, in the book anyway, along with the 6CM, 7-08, and .270. Picked up a few jugs just before the Biden crunch.

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i think one of the guys here has a custom Stevens M200 in 250-3000

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The 250 Salvage can't begin to hang with a 243 Grendel or 6BR,especially a Salvage receiver wearing a 1-10" Shaw piece of fhuqking schit spout. Hint.

I've yet to encounter a chambering that was "difficult" to load for and I shoot a bunch more,than a bunch of chamberings. Hint.

Pass the 224 Speedmire and 90 Beer Cans,if/when talking 250 Salvage hulls. Hint.

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The 22 PPC AFI slaps the 250 Salvage silly,with less powder,blast and recoil. Likely a 1-7" Bart' at 21",on the newest boltgun...but I have multiple in 20-22" Krunchentickers from 1-8" to 6.5" too. Hint.

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I enjoyed your Delusions and thanks for the fhuqking laughs!

Hint................


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Very glad to be of service!

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STUPIDITY ain't a fhuqking "service",but rather a plight and them differences are stark. Hint.

I enjoy you doing your best and the HILARIOUS magnitude of that attempt. Hint.

Slow down,get a grip and try again...instead of pissing up soooo many ropes. Hint.

Give BC a thunk,if only because you botched it all. Hint.

A 18" 270 squirting 105's slams ALL of your doors shut. Hint.

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Bless your heart for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................


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I, too, have a Savage Axis with an E.R. Shaw barrel. I bought the barrel on sale from MidwayUSA. To make the ammo feed properly, I had to buy a 22-250 magazine. The 24" Shaw barrel is very accurate. I am able to match the velocities you quote above for the most part, but I don't know about 117 grain bullets at 2,800-2,900 fps. Enjoy this classic old chambering.


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Bought my first 250 Savage, a Ruger 77RL in 1983 after reading a lot about it. Then reamed to Ack Imp and had more fun with it. Bought a few more in Ruger 77’s and even a Ruger No.1A. Now I’m down to three, a Shilen barrel Ack Imp 77 Mark II, and two 77R rifles for my two sons. I think I’ve owned about every 25 caliber cartridge made at one time or another, but the 250 Savage doesn’t go away.
I’ve said many times a manufacturer should have produce a 25/08 or 258, just use the 243/308 case for a basis.

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Wouldn't fiddle with the .250 Sav much. Boring gun.

Guess which one is the fouler shot out of 10 if you can.
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Got a Shaw barrel with my old Tang Safe M77 in shipment right now, the old barrel had plenty of use and just got too finicky. I also have a M99R .250-3000 and the two rifles have made it plain over the years that it's a fine deer hunting cartridge.

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Originally Posted by MSRifleman
Very glad to be of service!


Are you in MS, and if so, what part? Don't pay any attention to the "Big Stik." If anyone doubts that lead in paint can mess you up, he is proof positive.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
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The usual.

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Originally Posted by Jerseyboy
I, too, have a Savage Axis with an E.R. Shaw barrel. I bought the barrel on sale from MidwayUSA. To make the ammo feed properly, I had to buy a 22-250 magazine. The 24" Shaw barrel is very accurate. I am able to match the velocities you quote above for the most part, but I don't know about 117 grain bullets at 2,800-2,900 fps. Enjoy this classic old chambering.


I'm shooting a 26 inch barrel T/C Custom shop barrel shooting the Hornady 117 gr SST bullet using a compressed charge of H-4831sc. This load chrono's at a sedate 2,660. It kills like the load is moving ever..ever much faster.

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Originally Posted by MSRifleman
Hey folks,

Just wanted to put in yet another plug for the old 250 Savage. Other forum members love it, and based on their reports I built my first in 2015 using a Savage Axis Stainless receiver as the platform and a 22.8” / 1-10 twist stainless sporter barrel that I ordered from ER Shaw. While I’ve built multiple rifles using the Axis as the platform—17 Remington, 222 Rem, 1-9 twist 22-250, 243 Win, 7mm-08, 25-06—the 250 Sav stands out for low blast and recoil, with a wider range of game applications than the rest. It has been particularly gratifying to update this classic with full pressure loads appropriate to a modern bolt action, using some of the latest powders (CFE223, Leverevolution, Reloader 16, IMR 7828 SSC, and now StaBall 6.5). 90 grain bullets at 3250 - 3300 FPS, 100 gr at 3000-3100, and 117-120 at 2800 to 2900 are all readily achievable loads in a modern bolt gun.

I’m glad to share load data with anyone who wants it. I’m looking forward to the arrival of my new 20” stainless barrel from Shaw, in order to build a handier woods version of the first one from 2015. These days I ask myself regularly, why in the world did I wait so long to discover this gem from the past? Why all the rage for the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm ARC, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc, when we’ve had the 250 Savage all along? I know, each has his favorites, but for my purposes, the 250 could replace all the rest. It really is an overlooked masterpiece of cartridge design. And so easy to load for!

Good afternoon to all, and thanks to all of you who influenced me to resurrect this little wonder.



Once your go "250 Savage" you never go back to the other's.

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I like what you've done with the Axis platform. I'ma follow you on these forms.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
The 250 Salvage can't begin to hang with a 243 Grendel or 6BR,especially a Salvage receiver wearing a 1-10" Shaw piece of fhuqking schit spout. Hint.

I've yet to encounter a chambering that was "difficult" to load for and I shoot a bunch more,than a bunch of chamberings. Hint.

Pass the 224 Speedmire and 90 Beer Cans,if/when talking 250 Salvage hulls. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]
[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

The 22 PPC AFI slaps the 250 Salvage silly,with less powder,blast and recoil. Likely a 1-7" Bart' at 21",on the newest boltgun...but I have multiple in 20-22" Krunchentickers from 1-8" to 6.5" too. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]
[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

I enjoyed your Delusions and thanks for the fhuqking laughs!

Hint................


Dang. I was going to rip you a new one till I saw it was Stick... then I decided to STFU. Have a great day!!!


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Here’s some load data from the last 6 or so years, that I selected based on good velocity, good accuracy, or use of a powder for which little data is available. Work up to these carefully only in a modern bolt action; they are maximum but with normal case life, extraction, bolt lift etc. Caution. Velocities are corrected to the muzzle. All primers are Rem 9 1/2 std primers, cases Hornady 22-250 necked up. Hope this maybe be of help to someone:

A) Hornady GMX 90 gr; land contact 2.606”; loads -.013 to-.020”
A1) 37.5 grs Leverevolution (LVR), 3275 fps. Repeated 0.5” to 0.6” two shot groups at 100 yds.
A2) 39.7 grs CFE223, 3310 fps. Repeated 0.4” two-shot groups.

B) Sierra 117 Pro Hunter, LC 2.479”, best results at -.020” to .025”
B1) 42.2C grs IMR 7828 SSC, 2810 fps. 1” three shot groups. Extremely low std deviations of 0.1 to 0.2%
B2) 33.5 grs IMR 4166, 2816 fps. Very clean, very low blast
B3) 35.3 grs LVR, 0.10” to 0.50” two-shot groups

C) Hornady 117 gr Round Nose. LC 2.427, set at -.012 to -.015”. 38.0 grs Reloader 16, 2830 fps. Ultra clean. No extended accuracy series done yet.

In general I’ve found Leverevolution to be more accurate than the very similar CFE223 in most of my different rifles. In my pure varmint guns it will often beat CFE223 for velocity.

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You Drooling CLUELESS Dumbfhuqks are a hoot! Hint. Congratulations?!?

117 Hornie .257" SST at the cited velocity. Hint.

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6 ARC Factory Fodder. Hint.

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223 bolt gun slingin' 88's. Hint.

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I've never heard of Lever'. Hint. LAUGHING!

You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your best. Hint.

Bless your hearts for trying though!

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
You Drooling CLUELESS Dumbfhuqks are a hoot! Hint. Congratulations?!?

117 Hornie .257" SST at the cited velocity. Hint.

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6 ARC Factory Fodder. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

223 bolt gun slingin' 88's. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

I've never heard of Lever'. Hint. LAUGHING!

You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your best. Hint.

Bless your hearts for trying though!

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................




Does the above mean you can or can't kill a deer with a 250 Savage? Thanks

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