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Federal #1 buck 15plt with Flite-Control...35 yards.

Winchester #1 buck 16plt...30 yards.

S&B #1 buck 12plt...25 yards.

Chokes are OK for birds...cylinder for yotes.


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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe


Federal #1 buck 15plt with Flite-Control...35 yards.

Winchester #1 buck 16plt...30 yards.

S&B #1 buck 12plt...25 yards.

Chokes are OK for birds...cylinder for yotes.


Do you mind explaining your statement about cylinder bore for coyotes?


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Chokes and modified chokes are not optimum for most buckshot loads and will may actually defeat the purpose of Flite-Control and Versatite wad technology.

Can't think of a link to the data, but you can always pattern the loads yourself.


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You are mostly correct about the Flite Control /Versa wads. However, those wads can often benefit from a little constriction. About .010"-.015" can often wring the ultimate performance from those wad systems. And there are some extended custom chokes made specifically for Flite Control wads that are excellent. What Flite Control cannot tolerate is any mechanism to strip the wad from the shot column as so many chokes designed for conventional shells do.

I notice your mention of buckshot. Buckshot in sizes over Number Four Buck have no advantages for coyotes and the very big disadvantage of a much smaller pellet count with fewer pellets in a usable pattern. A 3" No. Four Buck load has 41 pellets to fill in a pattern. And No. Four Buck hammers coyotes just fine. Kills them deader than Disco and when properly constricted can do that reliably and consistently to at least 50 yards. Tungsten T or BB is even better yet. And TSS #2's or #3's with 90+ pellets in the load is the ultimate coyote load in my experience. Loads that have a swarm of deep penetrating pellets that will break down a going away coyote at extended ranges are costly, but coyotes don't get away from a hunter either.


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Those wads were designed to hold the shot column mostly intact ~10 yards before spreading out. Don't see any benefit to defeating or modifying that performance.

Perhaps with some shells there may be some benefit.

While those projectiles you mentioned are demonstrably effective, I actually don't hunt with a shotgun. It is mostly there for the Wiley that sneaks up behind the set.


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I have at least 5000 flite control wads from pulled down shells. Cylinder, Imp Cylinder, and some modifieds work well with them, but a browning BPS Modified blew the pattern with the Flite control wads.

Shotguns are very different, and how they fit you will determine the point of aim, vs the point of impact.

Pattern your shotguns, use some kind of support to stabilize your point of aim as Anticipating the heavy recoil causes all kinds of aiming errors.

Coyotes can take a lot of killing, if they are moving, hit them again!


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Originally Posted by MOGC
And TSS #2's or #3's with 90+ pellets in the load is the ultimate coyote load in my experience.


Out of curiosity, what choke do you like in your shotgun for TSS #2? I know every shotgun is different.

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And TSS #2's or #3's with 90+ pellets in the load is the ultimate coyote load in my experience.


Out of curiosity, what choke do you like in your shotgun for TSS #2? I know every shotgun is different.



I'm using about .050" of constriction from my bore size.


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