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Had a 50 year old friend who died today from it and his wife is on 100% O2, three kids 17 year old twins and a 12 year old. She is a school teacher and had the vax, he did not.

Sucks to be part of the small percent that does not survive it.

I was in almost 50 years ago. I haven’t a clue what the gave us or shot us up with. Only one I remember was that damn peanut butter consistancy shot that burned like a hot coal. I remember taking lots of shots and lots of pills. In boot camp we weren’t allowed to talk. Eveywhere else we went we really didn’t give a schidt what they shot us up with.

Had a 50 year old friend who died today from it and his wife is on 100% O2, three kids 17 year old twins and a 12 year old. She is a school teacher and had the vax, he did not.

Sucks to be part of the small percent that does not survive it.

Gamma Globulin supposedly boosted your immune system, but it had it's hazards too... It is the reason they want all vets of the era previous to the 1990s checked for Hep C.

The medical field recognized widely, over a year ago, that a certain portion of the American populace had increased resistance to the Sars-CoV2 pathogen. Those who served in the U.S. Military from 1956-1996 were less likely to be affected by the virus, and if they were affected the impact was lessened and rarely serious enough to require hospitalization.

It wasn't complete protection, but even many who had multiple types and severe comorbidity survived infection. Long term smokers, diabetics, The morbidly obese, and many of those with severe cardiac complications and histories survived. Even at advanced age the protection seemed to be real.

And what exactly was it that offered this protection? All military members who served during those years received an unattenuated Adenovirus Type 4 and Type 7 vaccine in one form or another. During the late 70s when I served it came in the form of 2 pills.
In 1994 the manufacurer of the vaccine pills closed their doors and the supply was used up by 1996.

Because it was an unattenuated virus vaccine, it wasn't considered safe for the general populace and was only given to military members from ages 17-50, and deemed healthy.

Big Question?

For those who are leery of an mRNA vaccine, What would your concerns be over the Janssen/J&J vaccine?

As I understand it,the Janssen vax is an attenuated ( and thus safe for a larger demographic) adenovirus vaccine with the infection enhancing spike protein, seen in Sars-CoV2, spliced in so that the bodies immune system recognizes the virus that employs said spike protein and enhances immunity to it. There is no mRNA technology used in the vaccine, and it is similar to a vaccine that has been used, in unattenuated form for decades.

I'm onboard with the concept of vaccination, and seeking information on a covid19 vax for myself. I get the hesitation over the mRNA vaccines, and really don't wanna go there.

Given that all vaccines carry some risk, does anyone have a reason to believe the J&J shot is more hazardous than those given for Polio, Small Pox, or MMR?

Sounds promising and something of interest. But who needs a vaccine for a flu that less than 1% of the population dies from? Hardly anyone dies from the China flu anymore and yes I think the vaccine helps older people survive.

Looks like even CNN smells something fishy
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/health/breakthrough-cases-cdc-analysis/index.html

Had a 50 year old friend who died today from it and his wife is on 100% O2, three kids 17 year old twins and a 12 year old. She is a school teacher and had the vax, he did not.

Sucks to be part of the small percent that does not survive it.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Cliff note:

If you are 14 days or less from last shot and get sick, its “breakthrough”

Otherwise, its DOESN’T WORK !

Had a 50 year old friend who died today from it and his wife is on 100% O2, three kids 17 year old twins and a 12 year old. She is a school teacher and had the vax, he did not.

Sucks to be part of the small percent that does not survive it.

For whoever catches covid 19 it is still 99.98% survival. You hardly need a vaccine for that. More people die in car accidents.

Actually it is 100% opposite of what you said. From your link a breakthrough case is defined as a case 14 or more days after your last dose. Not defending or refuting the effectiveness of the vaccine, but misreading the link can cause issues.

For the purpose of this surveillance, a vaccine breakthrough infection is defined as the detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen in a respiratory specimen collected from a person ≥14 days after they have completed all recommended doses of a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

Does anyone here have a friend or relative directly involved in putting the micro chips in vaccines?