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I bought a blem Stag lower last year (that 6mm arc actually uses it), with the Connecticut roll mark, and for whatever it is worth, that lower is identical to a contemporary Aero lower, other than the obvious roll marks.
No forge markings, has the same upper receiver tensioning button as an Aero lower, and the hole for the rear takedown pin detent and spring is threaded like an Aero lower.
Could be coincidence, or one company ripping the other off, or maybe there is some kind of relationship or business deal. Don't know.
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I bought a blem Stag lower last year (that 6mm arc actually uses it), with the Connecticut roll mark, and for whatever it is worth, that lower is identical to a contemporary Aero lower, other than the obvious roll marks.
No forge markings, has the same upper receiver tensioning button as an Aero lower, and the hole for the rear takedown pin detent and spring is threaded like an Aero lower.
Could be coincidence, or one company ripping the other off, or maybe there is some kind of relationship or business deal. Don't know. They work together/affiliation. Stag uses Aero precision parts..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Stag was founded by the son of CMT in CT as the retail side but did get into trouble and now are based in WY.
I was wondering if BSA saw the splintered A forge mark and assumed it was Aero or if something really went off the tracks here. I just can’t see them going to someone else for parts unless the entire division was sold off. Not that it matters but I try to keep up when I can. BTW, the Splintered A forge mark is actually a stylized H with an A on top for Anchor Harvey forge.
CMT had a great reputation back in the day and built parts for several manufacturers. But once they opened Stag, deliveries started slowing down for other companies. The guy at the fun shop, who is pretty knowledgeable, says they are in affiliation or teamed up. The new Stag's use Aero Precision uppers and lowers and their handguards. Check them out and see for yourself..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The lowers sure look identical but the uppers are different.
Makes me wonder if CMT cut ties or if it's a logistics thing. Doesn't matter either way, like I said I just kinda like to keep up with who makes what for who and apparently, I'm behind the times...
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands.
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands. Good info. Let us know if your bolt grenades. If and when. Thanks buddy
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands. Good info. Let us know if your bolt grenades. If and when. Thanks buddy As long as you keep the pressure where hornady says too. One should never have bolt problems. But you know that already you silly goose..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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So the 108 eld-m one is at 2.295 OAL the other is at 2.255 OAL. So somewhere between those two is the sweet spot 😁
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands. Good info. Let us know if your bolt grenades. If and when. Thanks buddy As long as you keep the pressure where hornady says too. One should never have bolt problems. But you know that already you silly goose.. Just keep an eye on it buddy. The steel around the bolt face is awfully thin...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands. Good info. Let us know if your bolt grenades. If and when. Thanks buddy As long as you keep the pressure where hornady says too. One should never have bolt problems. But you know that already you silly goose.. Just keep an eye on it buddy. The steel around the bolt face is awfully thin... I do look at the bolt when I clean it after every range trip. Also I’m not trying to hot rod it, stick with hornady load data.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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29.5gr leverevolution, 95gr VLD, cci400 seated at 1.604 BTO. I will get the OAL later, I did the Berger seating and surprisingly to me the one seated .130 off the lands shot the best. While 108 eld m shot the best .010 and .050 off the lands. Good info. Let us know if your bolt grenades. If and when. Thanks buddy As long as you keep the pressure where hornady says too. One should never have bolt problems. But you know that already you silly goose.. Just keep an eye on it buddy. The steel around the bolt face is awfully thin... I do look at the bolt when I clean it after every range trip. Also I’m not trying to hot rod it, stick with hornady load data. Good advice. I wanted to get on the bandwagon when it first came out, then I started to research it a bit. WOA won't even make a 6 ARC.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Now I have seen a broke bolt from a 6 WOA recently. Broke a lug right off, happened to a fella during one of our matches. Locked that thing right up.
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So, use CCI 400s vs CCI450s in the 6mm ARC?
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So, use CCI 400s vs CCI450s in the 6mm ARC? I was gonna use some CCI BR-4 in mine, for no real reason other than I have them. I don't have any small rifle mag primers.
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So, use CCI 400s vs CCI450s in the 6mm ARC? Stick referenced the cci 400 with his load data for 243lbc so i gave them a try seem to work just fine so far.
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So, use CCI 400s vs CCI450s in the 6mm ARC? I was gonna use some CCI BR-4 in mine, for no real reason other than I have them. I don't have any small rifle mag primers. Id use BR4's, if you have them.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I also have had no issues with standard federal 205’s as well.
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I have 300 6.5 Lapua Grendel brass I’m making into 6mm ARC.
Focusing on the Hornady 105 BTHP, Sierra 107 hpbt, and the 103 ELD-X. One of em aught to work for pretty much everything.
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Don’t fall for that .530 bc on the 105gr hornady Hpbt. It more closer to .470 ish. I wish I could find more of those 107 smk.
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