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And, keep in mind that these were people working on the hospital, exposed to huge viral loads at work, not just rando people off the street.

I know a few people in their data.

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This is what's on the Cleveland Clinic's Covid page today:

If I've had COVID-19 should I get vaccinated anyway?

We still recommend that you get the vaccine even if you’ve had COVID-19. However, you may consider waiting 90 days after getting infected as it’s not common to get COVID-19 again within three months of first being infected.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
This is what's on the Cleveland Clinic's Covid page today:

If I've had COVID-19 should I get vaccinated anyway?

We still recommend that you get the vaccine even if you’ve had COVID-19. However, you may consider waiting 90 days after getting infected as it’s not common to get COVID-19 again within three months of first being infected.

Did you read my link?

The whole thing.

It's what they put out offer being threatened by .gov of they didn't.

There were ZERO cases of reinfection despite the study participants working daily with covid patients, often critically ill covid patients.

So, they decided to recommend vaccination despite data showing zero reinfections, after previously saying don't get vaccinated if you've had covid.

That is some evil shiit right there, and would, in normal times, get the people recommending an unnecessary treatment (one that's only EUA at that) in a lot of trouble.

But here we are.....

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"We recently shared research that provides insight into how the immune system protects the body after a confirmed COVID-19 infection. The study followed Cleveland Clinic caregivers over five months as the vaccination process was beginning. The data showed that the vaccine was extremely effective in preventing COVID-19 infection. In addition, we found that none of the previously infected employees who remained unvaccinated were re-infected over the duration of the study. "

Since I wouldn't want you to have to actually go to the Cleveland Clinic website.

Edit: notice they don't say zero vaccinated caregivers were infected?

That's what they call a hint......

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Goalie I commend you on getting the common sense information out there but you are wasting your time. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. Same goes for Covitards.

Thanks again for the information.

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Originally Posted by Springcove
Goalie I commend you on getting the common sense information out there but you are wasting your time. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. Same goes for Covitards.

Thanks again for the information.

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Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
This is what's on the Cleveland Clinic's Covid page today:

If I've had COVID-19 should I get vaccinated anyway?

We still recommend that you get the vaccine even if you’ve had COVID-19. However, you may consider waiting 90 days after getting infected as it’s not common to get COVID-19 again within three months of first being infected.


That’s part of what’s on that page.


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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
This is what's on the Cleveland Clinic's Covid page today:

If I've had COVID-19 should I get vaccinated anyway?

We still recommend that you get the vaccine even if you’ve had COVID-19. However, you may consider waiting 90 days after getting infected as it’s not common to get COVID-19 again within three months of first being infected.

Did you read my link?

The whole thing.

It's what they put out offer being threatened by .gov of they didn't.

There were ZERO cases of reinfection despite the study participants working daily with covid patients, often critically ill covid patients.

So, they decided to recommend vaccination despite data showing zero reinfections, after previously saying don't get vaccinated if you've had covid.

That is some evil shiit right there, and would, in normal times, get the people recommending an unnecessary treatment (one that's only EUA at that) in a lot of trouble.

But here we are.....


I was reading and posting my comment while you were providing the link. It does appear that the Cleveland Clinic was bullied.

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I don't trust a single thing the govt has to say about the persistent low level bio wpn the bucketheads made in cahoots with Fauci and crew,s help delibrately let loose and spread around the world.

The fughing scamdemic worked to get President Trump out of office and install patsy signature block authority Joey for the Globalist.
40 some odd EO,s in the 1st week IIRC???
All basically undoing American industry independence in various forms.
If that aint telling about schitt then what the fugg is???


China has the world by the short hairs from its cheap labor and goods from A to Z....

They taught the world a simple economic lesson.
Without our schitt your nations wither and die......



Honk for Joey at the High school parking lot rally on national TV.
All 26 cars in the pparking lot at the same time.
Honk honk.....
Dominon and mail in ballot fraud will take care of the rest.....

But life goes on for the least impacted in this nation.
The ones on unca suga,s golden tit on federal programs for life.
They are 100% provided for, pay little to no taxes ever, get tax returns outta thin air.
As long as they vote Liberal Socialist Democrat blindly the gravy train continues and they never have to work, just breed more....

While the rest of us working or retired pay taxes for the other sides voters....
JFC......

LBJ,s great society....
Ever growing
Never shrinking....


so the Delta Variant is a plot to get rid of Biden?

I thought Corona was going away after the election?

Somebody told me wrong.....


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Louisiana

www.2theadvocate.com

Headline news, front page:

Hospitals Plead For Help
Not enough workers
Now where have I heard this recently? Oh, every business that requires employees.

10,000 recorded deaths
Time frame?

Heck of a hoax and quite the agenda some would say.

Most hospitals are trying to turn a profit[or at least not run in the red] like all other businesses.
And much like other businesses nowadays you run at the bare minimum and hire only as needed.
It's just the nature of the beast these days.



That surely does have something to do with the present situation.

My daughter works at Our Lady of The Lake Hospital that serves as a ‘catch all ‘ facility since shutting down the Earl K. Long Charity Hospital in Baton Rouge. They typically run at a high level of occupancy.

She’s been on a 7 day week schedule, 12 hrs/day for a while now and she’s been working 16 hour days for the past 5 days. She and 2 of her coworkers have told their boss that they’re taking off this coming Friday-Sunday . The three ladies have commandeered my fishing camp.down below Pierre Part for the weekend.

She told me last night that the federal team that was dispatched to there hit the ground running upon their arrival at the hospital.


(A-Team theme song plays in the background)











Jesus fugking Christ.


Florida Man hates it when some one else gets to be the frontliner.

While he sits at home.

And no govt. overtime.

No praise, no attention.

But on the good side, sure glad his wife let him use his phone again!


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by renegade50
I don't trust a single thing the govt has to say about the persistent low level bio wpn the bucketheads made in cahoots with Fauci and crew,s help delibrately let loose and spread around the world.

The fughing scamdemic worked to get President Trump out of office and install patsy signature block authority Joey for the Globalist.
40 some odd EO,s in the 1st week IIRC???
All basically undoing American industry independence in various forms.
If that aint telling about schitt then what the fugg is???


China has the world by the short hairs from its cheap labor and goods from A to Z....

They taught the world a simple economic lesson.
Without our schitt your nations wither and die......



Honk for Joey at the High school parking lot rally on national TV.
All 26 cars in the pparking lot at the same time.
Honk honk.....
Dominon and mail in ballot fraud will take care of the rest.....

But life goes on for the least impacted in this nation.
The ones on unca suga,s golden tit on federal programs for life.
They are 100% provided for, pay little to no taxes ever, get tax returns outta thin air.
As long as they vote Liberal Socialist Democrat blindly the gravy train continues and they never have to work, just breed more....

While the rest of us working or retired pay taxes for the other sides voters....
JFC......

LBJ,s great society....
Ever growing
Never shrinking....


so the Delta Variant is a plot to get rid of Biden?

I thought Corona was going away after the election?

Somebody told me wrong.....



There was a marked decline in the COVID doomsday kind of reporting immediately following the election.

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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.



I get that train of thought, an I have always been a skeptic. I am a skeptic both ways though. When someone posts a thread that says the vaccinated are killing the unvaccinated, I dig in and explore it. I don't think all things science and medical are thoroughly corrupted. With one exception the numbers in the OP seem to be consistent with a variety of sources. My best bicycling bud is an ER doctor and a pretty hardcore conservative. She gives me the inside scoop pretty regularly. The number I hold suspect is the one that shows the unvaccinated are 8 times more likely to get Delta than the vaccinated. I am not seeing that at all. I am seeing about 50/50. What I am seeing is that the vaccinated are faring much better than the unvaccinated when they get Delta.

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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.



Question:
Are you an employee of that government healthcare machine?


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.



Question:
Are you an employee of that government healthcare machine?



Bump for goalie.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.



Question:
Are you an employee of that government healthcare machine?



One last bump for goalie.


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If you know how this shot worked you would know putting numbers on unvaccinated -vs- vaccinated is bullshit at its finest. They said from the beginning the vaccination has no live or dead virus so the person would HAVE to catch the virus to produce antibodies…same as the unvaxed.

So the goal all along wasn’t to stop the virus or prevent you from getting it, it was for someone to get the shot.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by goalie
Actually read this "oh no, .gov is pissed at us" non-retraction retraction:

the data showed no reinfection, but .gov says get jabbed and we want reimbursement, so.....


It seems likely to me that they were bullied.


Now, let's ask the question: should we trust ANYTHING coming from the government health care machine if they are willing to "bully" one of the world's most prestigious health care providers into "recommending" what their own data days is an unnecessary treatment?

Add in that the treatment in question is new tech, potentially dangerous, in an EUA status in addition to being shown conclusively to be unnecessary.



I get that train of thought, an I have always been a skeptic. I am a skeptic both ways though. When someone posts a thread that says the vaccinated are killing the unvaccinated, I dig in and explore it. I don't think all things science and medical are thoroughly corrupted. With one exception the numbers in the OP seem to be consistent with a variety of sources. My best bicycling bud is an ER doctor and a pretty hardcore conservative. She gives me the inside scoop pretty regularly. The number I hold suspect is the one that shows the unvaccinated are 8 times more likely to get Delta than the vaccinated. I am not seeing that at all. I am seeing about 50/50. What I am seeing is that the vaccinated are faring much better than the unvaccinated when they get Delta.




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I was just driving home from Hooters. Two things struck me while there. They are having a hard time recruiting talent, and who the hell orders Hooters to go? I mean even with the lower level of talent, it's still Hooters. While I was driving home, the governor was having a COVID press brief. Our governor is a democrat, but I have to applaud him for keeping these briefs absolutely non-political. He had a doctor come on and give some numbers.
LA is short 6000 nurses.Tomorrow, hospitalizations will be at an all time high since the pandemic began. The average age of the person who dies from Covid has dropped from 75 to 65. Fatalities among people under 40 years of age has gone up nearly 500% Fully vaccinated people are 25 times less likely to be hospitalized and 25 times less likely to die from COVID. Vaccinated people are 8 times less likely to contract COVID. He was still talking when I got home, but I had an order from Natchez Shooters Supply on the porch and wanted to open it, to see what I'd have to return for being defective.
If you think that all of that is factual, there is reason for concern.


Pick a number and show me how it is wrong.


Those are mostly percentages you offered up, not numbers.



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I was just driving home from Hooters. Two things struck me while there. They are having a hard time recruiting talent, and who the hell orders Hooters to go? I mean even with the lower level of talent, it's still Hooters. While I was driving home, the governor was having a COVID press brief. Our governor is a democrat, but I have to applaud him for keeping these briefs absolutely non-political. He had a doctor come on and give some numbers.
LA is short 6000 nurses.Tomorrow, hospitalizations will be at an all time high since the pandemic began. The average age of the person who dies from Covid has dropped from 75 to 65. Fatalities among people under 40 years of age has gone up nearly 500% Fully vaccinated people are 25 times less likely to be hospitalized and 25 times less likely to die from COVID. Vaccinated people are 8 times less likely to contract COVID. He was still talking when I got home, but I had an order from Natchez Shooters Supply on the porch and wanted to open it, to see what I'd have to return for being defective.
If you think that all of that is factual, there is reason for concern.
Pick a number and show me how it is wrong.
Pick a number ?? Any number. Let's start with some verified credibility of your source, especially in light of the heavy history of specious "numbers" for the past many months. Numbers are easy in the Covid scene - facts, not so much.
If you are going to challenge the veracity of something, you should be able to support it with facts. Otherwise you are employing typical liberal "because I said so" logic.
That is wacky - there is no "because I said so" "If" is your important term - for no numbers or calculations are challenged up above. The glowing trail of lousy and manipulative Covid data is the issue.

You stated that " He had a doctor come on and give some numbers." Who was that? What are the research/data credentials of "some doctor"? A different poster here might quote "some doctor" - so do we then dive down into that vague data rabbit hole?

If anyone is behaving like a "typical liberal", it would be you - posting totally unsubstantiated numbers and expecting folks to accept them as accurate. 6,000 nurses, eh?


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