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The Lyman cast bullet handbook is a must have. Thanks.
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That pot will do a lot of casting.
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I turned 100 lb of alloy into bullets with the Lee bottom pour 20# pot.
I still do not own a ladle or a thermometer. The pot is thermostat controlled. It does a great job of holding temp once you find where to set the thermostat.
You will know the pot is too hot when the top surface of the melt scales over quickly and changes color. (oxidation) Too cold and it will not flow well into the mold.
Use a bit of flux on the top of your melt to protect it from Oxygen, but don't burn the house down.
There is 300 lb of unknown Lead alloy in the shed waiting to become bullets. I will add Antimony and Tin to increase hardness and pourability. Pure lead does not fill the mold as well as with a bit of Tin added, What's flux?
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Bees wax, paraffin, sawdust, basically something carbon bearing. Read this: Fluxing the melt.Then go to the home page and download the whole casting .pdf. Very informative and free. Buy a thermometer: Lead casting thermometers
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I like sawdust best.
If you can get some oak or other hardwood it will smell like lunch.
Any wood will work.
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I turned 100 lb of alloy into bullets with the Lee bottom pour 20# pot.
I still do not own a ladle or a thermometer. The pot is thermostat controlled. It does a great job of holding temp once you find where to set the thermostat.
You will know the pot is too hot when the top surface of the melt scales over quickly and changes color. (oxidation) Too cold and it will not flow well into the mold.
Use a bit of flux on the top of your melt to protect it from Oxygen, but don't burn the house down.
There is 300 lb of unknown Lead alloy in the shed waiting to become bullets. I will add Antimony and Tin to increase hardness and pourability. Pure lead does not fill the mold as well as with a bit of Tin added, What's flux? wax or sawdust added to bring out the impurities that can be skimmed off the top
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They sau itll make u stoopid, the fumes and such.
I don’t know, I can’t smell it when I done it It obviously hasn't effected your intelligence. Lead Fumes are released at 900°F.. Way hotter than you will need for casting. One of the best sources for casting alloy is clip on Wheel Weights. They are getting harder and harder to find as most manufactures have turned to zinc. If you melt Zinc into the mix you pretty much ruined the lot. Don't do that. Zinc melts at 788*, lead at 622*, keep your melt at about 700* when making ingots and the zinc along with the metal clips will just float and can be skimmed off with a slotted spoon. Get one of these for temp control. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010268761?pid=357906and one of these for making ingots. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101020375?pid=361222
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I would not bother with a bottom pour like the Lee because it’s going to be a piece of schit. Start with this: https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/20474If you make good stuff and enjoy it you can upgrade down the line to a big bottom pour furnace. But for moderate volume a ladle and old style furnace is best to learn on in my opinion. If you start casting bullets you’ll want to get a sizer and dies at some point.
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My first pot was a Lee and like most everything made by Lee is was a waste of money. I have since bought two RCBS pots, I been using them for the past 20 some odd years. I'd advise getting welders gauntlets for casting, hot lead burns hot and deep. Candle stubs, blocks of canning paraffin make great flux, don't use the wife's unused candles. They get real testy about that. Go to Goodwill and buy a soup spoon, drill holes in it for slag and crude out of the molten lead, I bought a pair of cheap vise grips at a yard sale for gripping the spoon handle, the spoon will get real hot. Have fun and be careful
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Yeah! Hang in there and in about ten years you’ll cast some good ones!!
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I would not bother with a bottom pour like the Lee because it’s going to be a piece of schit. Start with this: https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/20474If you make good stuff and enjoy it you can upgrade down the line to a big bottom pour furnace. But for moderate volume a ladle and old style furnace is best to learn on in my opinion. If you start casting bullets you’ll want to get a sizer and dies at some point. Thanks.
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Yeah! Hang in there and in about ten years you’ll cast some good ones!! LOL.
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got everything to do it, need to set all that stuff back up.
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IMHO, you want to smooth the path step back from Lee casting equipment. They do have some good products, but bottom pour pots and aluminum moulds are way down at the bottom of the valley.
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IMHO, you want to smooth the path step back from Lee casting equipment. They do have some good products, but bottom pour pots and aluminum moulds are way down at the bottom of the valley. Good advise and spot on !
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IMHO, you want to smooth the path step back from Lee casting equipment. They do have some good products, but bottom pour pots and aluminum moulds are way down at the bottom of the valley. Agreed.
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Lots of good advice here. If all you’re going to do is balls for your revolver it’s pretty straight forward and simple. I would agree with ‘flave, stay away from bottom pour initially, it overcomplicates the process while learning. If you’re going to go for high performance cast bullets for magnum revolvers and rifles be forewarned: you’re going down a rabbit hole. There are a lot of guys here who are great sources of knowledge about bullet casting. Have fun.
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Hey, the lead seller is asking me if I want all 1lb ingot, all 1/2lb ingots, or a mix. Any reason to prefer one to the other? I have a Lee pot like in that link. It’s old and still works great Not really but the little might fit into the pot more totally and get up to temp faster. I need to make some time for casting. I have hundreds of lbs of soft lead from old roof top plumbing flashings. And sections of soft lead water services. Biden said the infrastructure bill will help pull out all the rest of the lead water services in America. No more dumb kids. Yay!!! As if the little bastids actually drink tap water anyway. They're more into drinking hand sanitizer
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Yeah! Hang in there and in about ten years you’ll cast some good ones!! LOL. You’ll have good ones dropping in no time. There’s nothing to it. I gave all my magazines away in the last move otherwise I’d send you some of Venturino’s best stuff. But anything he writes about casting is worth reading. https://gunsmagazine.com/our-experts/casting-revolver-bullets/
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