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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
What would you know about shooting (or police work) Blue?

You are part of the M9 Generation.


Nothing.



But I've had a LOT of highway patrol cops write me tickets. I'm well versed in their culture.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
What would you know about shooting (or police work) Blue?

You are part of the M9 Generation.


he's also a hell of an actor, but I dont rememebr him using an m9 in any of his three movies


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There is nothing more detrimental to actual police work than a born-again Traffic Azzhole.

ETA: My apologies, Chippy. That was a little harsh. Actually traffic guys kept the rest of us freed up for important stuff like UCR Part One crimes, rescuing damsels in distress and stakeouts at the local donut shop.










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Originally Posted by lvmiker
In reference to the choice of the MC holster. Wearing a horizontally oriented shoulder holster containing a loaded firearm causes you point a loaded firearm at anyone to your rear and in most circumstances causes you to muzzle/sweep your self while drawing. Neither of these things receive a lot of attention in the gunworld but have caused many LE agencies and prominent training venues to discontinue their use. I did have one for my Commander but couldn't get past the above issues once I became aware of the potential problems.

Of course you could carry your 1911 w/ an empty chamber and master the "Israeli Draw"

SNORK!!!!


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Israeli Draw is executed from the strong side, IWD, with no holster.....just saying...


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Originally Posted by SargeMO
There is nothing more detrimental to actual police work than a born-again Traffic Azzhole.

ETA: My apologies, Chippy. That was a little harsh. Actually traffic guys kept the rest of us freed up for important stuff like UCR Part One crimes, rescuing damsels in distress and stakeouts at the local donut shop.

I appreciate the thought, SargeMO. Thanks.
The thing about traffic enforcement which most don’t get is that, if it is done with enthusiasm, it gets an observant cop into a whole bunch of cars in a short amount of time, and in contact with a lot of surprised folks who are not prepared for it. While the vast majority of traffic stops result in minor corrective action and PR opportunities, the others can produce huge numbers of warrants, drugs, weapons and other on-view felony arrests, if the traffic cop is sufficiently curious and follows up on what is being observed, while employing good officer safety practices.
My beat partner and I were of the same mind about this and added an extra category to our monthly activity record sheets for bail amounts from in-custody arrests. At the end of the month, the one of us with the highest bail dollar total had his lunch paid for by the other. The sergeants hated that we were off the road so often booking bad guys at the jail, but our regular traffic activity was so much higher than other officers that they couldn’t say much. One sergeant finally noticed the extra, unidentified tallies being kept on our activity sheets, asked about it, and immediately ordered a halt to it as being “unprofessional.” We continued the practice, but no longer kept score.
As a prosecutor, I told the county’s deputies, city cops and CHP officers about this and prosecution volume began increasing noticeably.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
What would you know about shooting (or police work) Blue?

You are part of the M9 Generation.


Nothing.



But I've had a LOT of highway patrol cops write me tickets. I'm well versed in their culture.


I only have one example of their culture, but it was pretty hilarious to hear him accuse me of almost running over the car that changed lanes ahead of me and slammed on its brakes to take the exit it almost missed - while on my motorcycle. And that was after he accused me of speeding when I was passed by multiple cars just prior to his appearance. Yeah, a real rocket surgeon, that one. But the really funny part was how baffled he was by my straightforward answers to his stupid scripted questions about my residence and employment. Yeah, a real fart smeller.


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I for one, and happy we have Mackay on the Fire.. When he speaks I listen.. Lots of BS artists here, but you can count on the advice he gives.. Hang in there always enjoy your stuff..


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Agreed. I have not met Mackay face to face yet. Perhaps some day?

But I well understand if he has formed an opinion, you can consider it justified.


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So, you recognize no personal responsibility to discuss it with anyone else?


People carrying 1911s are dying at a rate orders of magnitude beyond their ability to shoot themselves. Take solace in the fact that this crisis will resolve itself shortly without our intervention.

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Originally Posted by lvmiker
In reference to the choice of the MC holster. Wearing a horizontally oriented shoulder holster containing a loaded firearm causes you point a loaded firearm at anyone to your rear and in most circumstances causes you to muzzle/sweep your self while drawing. Neither of these things receive a lot of attention in the gunworld but have caused many LE agencies and prominent training venues to discontinue their use. I did have one for my Commander but couldn't get past the above issues once I became aware of the potential problems.

Of course you could carry your 1911 w/ an empty chamber and master the "Israeli Draw"

SNORK!!!!


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Israeli Draw is executed from the strong side, IWD, with no holster.....just saying...



The Israeli draw to which I referred is carrying w/ an empty chamber and chambering a round as part of the presentation...just saying...


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Originally Posted by lvmiker
The Israeli draw to which I referred is carrying w/ an empty chamber and chambering a round as part of the presentation...just saying...


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With Condition 3 mandatory, I practiced that presentation from a flap holster for many hours as an Army MP, while standing a solo guard post down range in the desert.



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Originally Posted by SargeMO
I've got a personal responsibility to properly instruct younger family members if they are shooting here. Beyond that, I mind my own business.

Charlie's 1911 had the rawhide safety cord added to prevent unintentional interference with intentional discharges.




I have seen guys do that or just run tape around the grip to keep the grip safety from rattling as they walked.


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Chippy is back again,

Lecturing us on the 1911..

I find it interesting that he went and eliminated his posts in this thread.

NOTE he was called out for trying to pass himself off as a subject matter expert when in fact (by his own posts that he went and later eliminated) he does not possess even the most basic of actual certifications of any kind in relation to the 1911. But there were paragraphs of fluff about going to Afghanistan and seeing airplanes in the distance drop ordnance, and teaching local Hajis how to do legal paperwork. As if that somehow is going to lend credibility on the subject of the M1911.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Chippy is back again.


So, Hotshot, you got an answer to the pending question in that other thread, or not?


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Did it leave a bruise? Break the skin?

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Oh no Chippy,

You are the one who feels it is your "Personal Responsibility" to tell others what to do. The fact is that no amount of pretending and BSing will make you a subject matter expert. You don't have the background.





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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Oh no Chippy.

No answer from you, then. Not surprising.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Chippy is back again,

Lecturing us on the 1911..

I find it interesting that he went and eliminated his posts in this thread.

NOTE he was called out for trying to pass himself off as a subject matter expert when in fact (by his own posts that he went and later eliminated) he does not possess even the most basic of actual certifications of any kind in relation to the 1911. But there were paragraphs of fluff about going to Afghanistan and seeing airplanes in the distance drop ordnance, and teaching local Hajis how to do legal paperwork. As if that somehow is going to lend credibility on the subject of the M1911



How can this nerdy looking wing nut be expected to.have a clue?

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Originally Posted by Exchipy
Originally Posted by lvmiker
The Israeli draw to which I referred is carrying w/ an empty chamber and chambering a round as part of the presentation...just saying...


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With Condition 3 mandatory, I practiced that presentation from a flap holster for many hours as an Army MP, while standing a solo guard post down range in the desert.


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