Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The U.S. Government Lied For Two Decades About Afghanistan

It is good to see someone quoting George Bush as he rattles on, 18 years ago, about "building a new democracy in Afghanistan." He is so stupid, he actually thought he could do this.

It is good to see this because Bush is largely getting a pass in these past few days, I see Biden getting criticized, even on CNN and MSNBC, and of course they criticize Trump. Obama is mentioned occasionally. But nobody, from Hannity to Mark Levin to Tucker Carlson, mentions the name George Bush or his puppet master Dick Cheney. Those two are primarily to blame for the disaster in Afghanistan.

Twenty years is nothing - they're getting close to sixty on the Kennedy assassination.

Adolph Hitler could not and did not beat the Russians. They are brutal. I can't imagine we thought we could subdue Afghanistan when the the Russians failed despite their ROE that allowed anything but poison gas.

One thing for damn sure…we can’t using the tactics and rules of engagement we set for ourselves in that war.

It was reminiscent of the calvary initially engaging the Comanche. The Comanche/Taliban don’t have rules. They kill their enemy any way possible any time possible.

Our mission needed to be the same…kill the enemy.

Hell we put them in GITMO and left them (at huge expense) until we forgot why we were mad at them…then said oh heck…just go on home. Now, we see them as commanders in Afghanistan. Damn…we have seen the enemy…and it is us!

I agree, and I voted for W. Twice.

Well - honestly, we did more there, faster than the Russians did.

What's happening in A-stan is because of the vacuum we've created by leaving. IF we were still there the same as we were 18 months ago - this wouldn't be happening. It's not like we're being pushed off the field of battle at the point of a bayonet.

That said - the only way to "win" is to be there forever - which isn't a win either.


What would "success" in A-stan look like for us? There forever? We went in there because they were, at the time, harboring terrorists. We killed a lot of them, if that's the goal - pretty decent success. If the goal is nation building (which it never should be) then no. That's akin to buying a new car every time you need tires. I'd much rather buy tires from time to time (kick ass here and there, not rebuild the whole thing)


IOW - I'm fine with going in, decimating a problem and leaving. I'm not ok with going in, doing 65% of the job and just hanging out a couple decades.

Absolutely. But listening to the gallery here talk about their disdain for liberals and homosexuals, it’s odd.

War on terror should have lasted a year at best.
Bomb the camps, move on.
Cost benefit of 20 years of nation building is a total loss.
Now they enemy benefits from the infrastructure and assets left behind.

Hitler or Stalin could have permanently conquered Afghanistan. They would have rounded up every last man , woman , and child and killed them. Then they would have resettled Afghanistan with their preferred people.

This is PRECISELY why Trump was our salvation, so the swamp united and gor rid of him.

Burn/melt the nest?

I bet even fire-ants died in Hiroshima. 😉