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I got 2820fps from my Tikka with a 22" barrel using 45grs of H4895. I was happy with it as that was a book max load and it shot great there. My Savage wouldn't shoot that well going that speed. I haven't tried any of the newer powders with it, so there may be more in it. Quite frankly, I haven't had much reason to use them as I have miserable luck getting Ball powders to shoot, and my .300WM will will get used if I need to go faster.


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22" barreled Kimber Classic in .308 Win..

130 grain Barnes TTSX with max listed load of Tac powder in a Lapua case, Federal 210 match primer 3225 fps.

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A moly 130 TTSX will go over 3400 in an '06 behind a pile of R15...likewise good result out of your 308, LFC.

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Fastest? A few years back I was playing with the Barnes 110gr TTSX, and W748. Hit 3300+ with a 22" barrel, good accuracy.

My best long range load for the 308 is a 215gr Berger and RL-17 at 2600 fps from the same 22" barrel.

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OAL on those, MM? Would they fit in a binderless AICS?

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OAL on those, MM? Would they fit in a binderless AICS?



3.10" OAL. Just kisses the lands on a factory Rem 700 Varmint barrel.

I'm not familiar with a binderless AICS magazine.

What I have in my 308's is the Wyatts 2.99" internal box magazine. These are too long for that. Well, I can put one down the magazine, the point rests on the feed ramp. I just single load them though.

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OAL on those, MM? Would they fit in a binderless AICS?



3.10" OAL. Just kisses the lands on a factory Rem 700 Varmint barrel.

I'm not familiar with a binderless AICS magazine.

What I have in my 308's is the Wyatts 2.99" internal box magazine. These are too long for that. Well, I can put one down the magazine, the point rests on the feed ramp. I just single load them though.



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The AICS goes about the same as your Wyatts. Appreciate the info. I have an AICS setup on the kids' 700 in 300 savage, and am wondering if there's enough capacity in that case to burn R17 behind a heavy bullet like you're doing.

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The AICS goes about the same as your Wyatts. Appreciate the info. I have an AICS setup on the kids' 700 in 300 savage, and am wondering if there's enough capacity in that case to burn R17 behind a heavy bullet like you're doing.



A lot of it will probably depend on how long the throat is in the rifle. You will need to seat them pretty long to gain some powder volume.

If I had to load near 2.8" standard 308 OAL, I doubt the 215 or 208 grain bullets would be very viable.

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I settled on 46.0 grains of Varget in Nosler brass with the 155 Scenar. Out of my 16 inch Christensen it runs 2714fps and a 15 round string past the Labradar had a SD of 5.8 and ES of 15. Plus good groups.

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Originally Posted by Vek
OAL on those, MM? Would they fit in a binderless AICS?



3.10" OAL. Just kisses the lands on a factory Rem 700 Varmint barrel.

I'm not familiar with a binderless AICS magazine.

What I have in my 308's is the Wyatts 2.99" internal box magazine. These are too long for that. Well, I can put one down the magazine, the point rests on the feed ramp. I just single load them though.



Swinging for the fence....1800 yards.





Nice shot!

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