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Many patients assume that everything is calibrated to the nth degree and up to date in clinics and hospitals.
There's variations in people and instruments.
The BP meds are often dispensed without consideration to this fact.
Goes along with the point I made. Thanks. Paul
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Many patients assume that everything is calibrated to the nth degree and up to date in clinics and hospitals.
There's variations in people and instruments.
The BP meds are often dispensed without consideration to this fact.
Goes along with the point I made. Thanks. Paul You made points that are quite true IMHO. There are good physicians who have voiced the same about others in their profession. Some have claimed success in curing diabetes type 2 with dietary changed and supplementation as well. These aren't the typical Doctors. Feel free to PM anytime Paul.
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If I was measuring my BP at home I’d damn sure be wearing a FitBit or similar every day.
And using it.
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I've spent the last 20 years working transportation.
Almost every broker I know has one, most senior transportation people I know have one - all in our desks somewhere.
What the hell is this about? Are you an air traffic controller? nope Just (for me) - over the road truck and trailer. It's an industry where much goes wrong that people never see. Long hours, poor diet, lots of stress. I've been running back and forth between W. Michigan and Boston a lot over the past two years trying to get two businesses worth of equipment, materials and inventory moved. I'm just pulling a big gooseneck with an F350, but it's about 1000 miles each way. It was a little shorter/quicker when I could cut through Southern Ontario. Anyway, I've spent some time wondering why they don't make a cab that a driver can stand up in while operating the truck, like a leaning post at the helm of a boat. They've got desks that allow people to stand up and work. Lots of heavy trucks have automatics these days. It seems like a minor expense for a cab and chassis with a 1,000,000 mile lifespan.
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Right after some dumbass falls out of the truck while making a hard turn....the reason would be clear.
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Do you have a FitBit and will it actually measure blood pressure? I'm not worried about my blood pressure but I would like to keep an eye on my heart rate when I'm exercising or when I'm working outside on hot day (I'm 78). I ordered a Garmin heart rate monitor that was supposed to do all all kinds of things. When I got it and downloaded the instructions I found out that it didn't actually measure your heart rate it just estimated it.
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Get one. Heck against your doc, then ask if they want random readings or several times a day.
My several times a day was consistently scarey, but showed patterns. Now on meds we are still adjusting and almost low enough with using 2 week logs, one a day, randomly.
I guess my multiple readings of 205/110 freaked them out.
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A vote for Omron from me too.
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I use an OMRON brand tester. It has been reliable for some years now. Being accurate is not as important as being consistent. The daily peaks and valleys are not as important as a sudden large variation from your norm. Don't forget to buy and use a good pulse oximeter as well. This. Me also
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Mine is an Omron 3 Series. No complaints, and it seems to be accurate, compared to getting a nurse's reading at the Dr's office. Got it at Wallie's for about $50, as I recall. The ones with an arm band are MUCH more accurate than the wrist kind. LINKOmron is what we gave patients to use at home
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I've spent the last 20 years working transportation.
Almost every broker I know has one, most senior transportation people I know have one - all in our desks somewhere.
What the hell is this about? Are you an air traffic controller? nope Just (for me) - over the road truck and trailer. It's an industry where much goes wrong that people never see. Long hours, poor diet, lots of stress. I've been running back and forth between W. Michigan and Boston a lot over the past two years trying to get two businesses worth of equipment, materials and inventory moved. I'm just pulling a big gooseneck with an F350, but it's about 1000 miles each way. It was a little shorter/quicker when I could cut through Southern Ontario. Anyway, I've spent some time wondering why they don't make a cab that a driver can stand up in while operating the truck, like a leaning post at the helm of a boat. They've got desks that allow people to stand up and work. Lots of heavy trucks have automatics these days. It seems like a minor expense for a cab and chassis with a 1,000,000 mile lifespan. No clue why not. I'm not a driver. Currently work for a freight tech start up. Previous was a different start up that was a digital freight marketplace. Prior to that, asset operations at a top 5 carrier, some 3pls and a brokerage.
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I bought one from Walgreen's, no indication of manufacturer and have used it for a long time tracking BP in a spreadsheet with other data. It is normally close to the doctors office which is always high, they say "white coat syndrome". I think it's most important to track it over time rather than at the doctors office. I mean s H !t, it was sky fk'n high after the young attractive nurse checked it after laying my hand right up against her t ! t....WTF do they expect  And I told my doctor this, she is probably 38 and quite attractive and she laughed saying that was probably the reason and checked it again. Well s H !t, I just told you my hand was up against her boob and now you are checking it, let me send you an average next week
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+1 Been using Ormon for years. Checked accuracy in Dr's office was with in +/- 5 points.
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About BP in a doctor's office, not 1 in 10 of the staff who take BPs does it correctly. Plus, if you see the doc infrequently all he has is a snapshot, when an average would give a better picture, due to the inherent variability of BP. I'm not trained in medicine but I do understand data analysis. The info doctors work from is scary, as is their cavalier attitude toward much of it.
By coincidence, I have an appointment with my retinal specialist today. Awhile ago one of his "techs" said, "Oh, I see your A1C is 8.6". Now I'm borderline diabetic, under good control, and my A1C has never been anywhere near 8.6, hovers around 6.0. Moreover, they are not connected to a data source that would show such a record, would only know what I told them. Then, they routinely ask me "what was your blood glucose this morning?" Damned if I know, I don't have a sticker routine. For some reason they treat me as a full blown diabetic. Like I said, scary.
Where did that A1C number come from?
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I've spent the last 20 years working transportation. Almost every broker I know has one, most senior transportation people I know have one - all in our desks somewhere. I have one from Life Source that the doc gave me. Works fine. UA-851THW I do not use the wireless part of it. Just there on the screen. HereThat model got chit on big time in Amazon reviews. Of the Omrons models what one are you guys using.
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I've spent the last 20 years working transportation. Almost every broker I know has one, most senior transportation people I know have one - all in our desks somewhere. I have one from Life Source that the doc gave me. Works fine. UA-851THW I do not use the wireless part of it. Just there on the screen. HereThat model got chit on big time in Amazon reviews. Of the Omrons models what one are you guys using. This one. Doesn't have the bells and whistles but it's accurate and doesn't eat batteries too bad. You don't need wireless Bluetooth spreadsheet crap, just an accurate cuff.
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Mine is an Omron 3 Series. No complaints, and it seems to be accurate, compared to getting a nurse's reading at the Dr's office. Got it at Wallie's for about $50, as I recall. The ones with an arm band are MUCH more accurate than the wrist kind. LINKI use an OMRON brand tester. It has been reliable for some years now. Being accurate is not as important as being consistent. The daily peaks and valleys are not as important as a sudden large variation from your norm. Don't forget to buy and use a good pulse oximeter as well. This. Been using an Omron too. It's been periodically tested against an old-school mercury unit and is consistently close enough.
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Mine is an Omron 3 Series. No complaints, and it seems to be accurate, compared to getting a nurse's reading at the Dr's office. Got it at Wallie's for about $50, as I recall. The ones with an arm band are MUCH more accurate than the wrist kind. LINK Rocky, my nephrologist says only the omron is accurate. Series 3 is five star rated at WM for about 30$. I had open heart surgery early this year and lost 30lbs i can't get back no matter how much I eat. Walk like and old man now short gimpy steps. Now the kidneys are acting up. Eat RED seedless grapes for kidney health.
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About BP in a doctor's office, not 1 in 10 of the staff who take BPs does it correctly. Plus, if you see the doc infrequently all he has is a snapshot, when an average would give a better picture, due to the inherent variability of BP. I'm not trained in medicine but I do understand data analysis. The info doctors work from is scary, as is their cavalier attitude toward much of it.
By coincidence, I have an appointment with my retinal specialist today. Awhile ago one of his "techs" said, "Oh, I see your A1C is 8.6". Now I'm borderline diabetic, under good control, and my A1C has never been anywhere near 8.6, hovers around 6.0. Moreover, they are not connected to a data source that would show such a record, would only know what I told them. Then, they routinely ask me "what was your blood glucose this morning?" Damned if I know, I don't have a sticker routine. For some reason they treat me as a full blown diabetic. Like I said, scary.
Where did that A1C number come from? The 6.0 from routine lab tests. Pretty consistent. The 8.6? Who knows? Saw the retinal doc today and still had trouble convincing them I'm not full blown diabetic. Did quote my primary care doc to that effect. From what I understand, there is disagreement as to the validity of the prediabetic concept. It is an agreed upon diagnostic standard or convention, based on the normal curve and probabilities. It certainly isn't binary, although it's treated as such, e.g. by the insurance companies. As for me, I don't care. I take care of myself, and have my blood glucose under good control. Given my age, I'll probably outlive the worst effects of diabetes.
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