24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
S
scoony Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
I am about to send off a #1 action to be rebarreled. Going with 6mm CM. Debating on barrel length. Probably go with 24” but open to suggestions.

Also thinking about having a block attached to the bottom of the barrel so the forearm can be attached to that instead of the hanger. I am interested in hearing some thoughts on that. I have no idea on how other single shots have their forearms attached Not really sure if this is a worthwhile effort. I will not be using factory wood so existing holes are a non-issue. I remember reading about this in an old magazine article about #1 accuracy tips.

And I know someone will ask what this rifle will be used for and the best answer I can come up with is “Fun”. Longest range locally is a little over 300 yards, so I want to shoot accurately at least that far. It will also get used for whitetails here in KY. This has been a project that I have had in my head for a while and finally at the point where I am ready to send off an action.

GB1

Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 232
P
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
P
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 232
When I had my action rebarreled I had a tuning screw installed in the hangar. Frank De Haas' book "The Single Shot's Gunsmithing Idea Book" goes in depth on his experiments with forend bedding. Mine has worked out well & I tighten it to light but firm pressure.

Attached Images
full-55403-195801-tuner3_sml.jpg (37.17 KB, 311 downloads)
full-55403-195800-tuner2_sml.jpg (43.37 KB, 307 downloads)
full-55403-195799-tuner1_sml.jpg (55.22 KB, 307 downloads)
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,614
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,614
Originally Posted by pertnear
When I had my action rebarreled I had a tuning screw installed in the hangar. Frank De Haas' book "The Single Shot's Gunsmithing Idea Book" goes in depth on his experiments with forend bedding. Mine has worked out well & I tighten it to light but firm pressure.



It’s actually called a Hicks Accurizer block. My smith installed one on my #1 Varmint. Bedded the forearm underneath the thing, then drilled a small hole so you can adjust it without removing the forearm. Adjustment starts out with the set screw just touching, then it’s 1/8 turn at a time till the groups tighten up. It works, downside is that it only works well with one load. After setting it for the primary, I go back to tried and true load tuning to get others to shoot well.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Swifty
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
S
scoony Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
Well, either the Hicks, or as Pertnear showed, drill and tap the hanger. With the barrel removed, it should be an easy drill and tap job.

Just curious, what type of action wrench would be used to pull a barrel on a #1. Friend has a barrel vice that we use to switch barrels out on his Savage rifles, but neither of us have an action wrench. Not that I need one, just curious.

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,703
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,703
I have never used a Hicks but have drilled and tapped many Rugers . It is a simple fix and more often than not shrinks groups from 1.5" or more down to .5" or better. Two of
My current Rugers however are fully bedded, one with a wood stock and my F/0 match rifle has a CNC machined forend that is fully bedded to the barrel and cap screwed .
Anybody I know that has rebarreled a Ruger for me installs it in a lathe, the don't use a barrel vice .
Cat


scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
IC B2

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,614
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,614
Guess I should have explained better but thought the difference should be obvious.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

The Hicks gives a much flatter bedding area that actually evens out the stock hanger area for better contact with the forearm kinda like bedding the front lug. Secondly the set screw is farther forward allowing less adjustment to achieve harmonic balance. Third it just plain looks cleaner.



Swifty
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
S
scoony Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
Between the Hicks and drill and tap, which is better is probably debatable. Not trying to be argumentative, but I would have to see an actual test to believe one is better than the other. Not against the Hicks, but I think it would be cleaner looking to drill and tap. The forearm will be covering it anyways.


Cat, curious what size tap / setscrew are you using? Would a 6-32 be sufficient?

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,964
J
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,964
Does anyone offer Ruger #1 actions for sale?

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,750
C
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,750
Originally Posted by Jericho
Does anyone offer Ruger #1 actions for sale?


No.


Old Corps

Semper Fi

Get off my lawn.

FJB
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,754
D
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,754
I have had five #1s.
Sold the first four cause they were inaccurate. Yes, slow learner. Three were varmint contour, one a sporter, all .22 centerfire. I tried all kind of forend schemes.
Bought a 218 Bee a year ago. Had Jim Kobe float the forearm by sanding out some wood near the forend tip and putting some bedding epoxy where the screw attaches to the hanger. There is no contact between the barrel and the forend. It is free floated.
The gun was a 1.5” at best shooter, now it’s sub 1”, 5 shots at 100 yards.


NRA Patron
IC B3

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 805
F
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
F
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 805
The one #1 I have owned, back in the 1980's, I suppose during the time of the suspect barrels, was a .338 wm. I free floated the forearm and it shot as well as I could shooting a 275 grain bullet at 2550. It was a real kicker and one had to focus. Shot Consistent point of impact every time and around an inch to 1.5" when I did my part. It killed everything I pointed it at. No vertical stringing which it did from the factory.

Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
S
scoony Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
Originally Posted by Fury01
The one #1 I have owned, back in the 1980's, I suppose during the time of the suspect barrels, was a .338 wm. I free floated the forearm and it shot as well as I could shooting a 275 grain bullet at 2550. It was a real kicker and one had to focus. Shot Consistent point of impact every time and around an inch to 1.5" when I did my part. It killed everything I pointed it at. No vertical stringing which it did from the factory.


I have a #1 in 338wm also. I added a limbsaver pad which makes it less painful to shoot. Recoil of that is one reason I am looking at 6mm cm for this other one. If I ever get drawn for elk here in KY, that 338 will get used. It shoots Barnes TTSX factory loads just under an inch.

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,613
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,613
What is the advantage of 6 Creedmoor in a single shot? 243, 6mm Rem or 6mm 06 would be a better chioce IMHO.

Last edited by Switch; 09/18/21.
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
S
scoony Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 942
Originally Posted by Switch
What is the advantage of 6 Creedmoor in a single shot? 243, 6mm Rem or 6mm 06 would be a better chioce IMHO.


I had considered the 6mm Remington, and possibly the AI version, but I can get 6mm cm brass from ADG which is local to me. Factory ammo is also easy to find locally. So I guess it really comes down to brass. I haven't mailed the action off yet. I am kind of waiting for my local gunsmith to finish up another project for me and discuss some options on this #1 action. He can do case color hardening and need to find out how that plays into the rebarrel sequence.

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 775
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 775
how did it go scoony? I'm wanting to do the same thing. they are like a sexy woman beautiful but just don't perform. you can get $2,000 in one pretty quick

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,703
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,703
Originally Posted by scoony
Between the Hicks and drill and tap, which is better is probably debatable. Not trying to be argumentative, but I would have to see an actual test to believe one is better than the other. Not against the Hicks, but I think it would be cleaner looking to drill and tap. The forearm will be covering it anyways.


Cat, curious what size tap / setscrew are you using? Would a 6-32 be sufficient?

Sorry I forgot to check this thread !
If my memory is correct we used a 8/48 , with small saddle for a wear plate so the screw did not bear on the barrel
Cat


scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

680 members (1beaver_shooter, 1minute, 12344mag, 1eyedmule, 10ring1, 1lessdog, 63 invisible), 3,072 guests, and 1,328 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,698
Posts18,456,710
Members73,909
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.114s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8667 MB (Peak: 0.9968 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-20 02:01:34 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS