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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16426331 09/12/21
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Another thing with LVR is it's available [around here and online} and it gets them bullets humming. I love the stuff in several calibers including the ones it was made for. Work up loads like other ball powders, simple , don't work up loads when it's -10 and then go hunting/shooting when it's 90 out.
Which is not usually the case anyways. You'd have to really try to overload 223/5.56 anyways.


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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16426343 09/12/21
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TAC is what I use in the 75 and 77 grain bullets.

Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16429934 09/13/21
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You’re good with Varget. It’s what I use in two 1-8” .223s with 75 grain ELD-M.


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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: bsa1917hunter] #16431070 09/13/21
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by fshaw
What’s your favorite powder for heavier bullets in a 223? I’m shooting a Kimber Montana in 233 with a 9 twist so 77gr TMKs are about max weight/length for me. Looking for accuracy over speed. So far Varget seems to be the winner in my gun. Will bump 8208 by .5 gr for 1 last try.

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I gotta ask, how far do you intend to shoot those pills? I stand by my first post regarding how those bullets will probably be alright at 100, but not very good at 400. Stability and accuracy wise from your 9 twist..

Stability actually increases as the bullet travels downrange and loses linear velocity faster than it loses rotational velocity.

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TAC, Varget, and LVR are what I use the most, but H335 and N203 work great, as well.

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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: Pharmseller] #16432328 09/14/21
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You’re good with Varget. It’s what I use in two 1-8” .223s with 75 grain ELD-M.


I agree Varget works great in a 223 1-8" with the 75gr ELD-M ( accurate load) this bullet must be close to it's velocity threshold in a 223, at 22-250 velocities it does shotgun patterns

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by fshaw
What’s your favorite powder for heavier bullets in a 223? I’m shooting a Kimber Montana in 233 with a 9 twist so 77gr TMKs are about max weight/length for me. Looking for accuracy over speed. So far Varget seems to be the winner in my gun. Will bump 8208 by .5 gr for 1 last try.

Thanks.

Frank

I gotta ask, how far do you intend to shoot those pills? I stand by my first post regarding how those bullets will probably be alright at 100, but not very good at 400. Stability and accuracy wise from your 9 twist..

Stability actually increases as the bullet travels downrange and loses linear velocity faster than it loses rotational velocity.



Thats been my experience as well. If they are stable and group at 100 yards they are stable and group accordingly at 400 or 500 yards

Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: boatanchor] #16432457 09/14/21
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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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You’re good with Varget. It’s what I use in two 1-8” .223s with 75 grain ELD-M.


I agree Varget works great in a 223 1-8" with the 75gr ELD-M ( accurate load) this bullet must be close to it's velocity threshold in a 223, at 22-250 velocities it does shotgun patterns



Thats not been my experience. I've shot 75 elds and a lot of the 75 amax in a 22-250 AI at 3400 fps with very good accuracy

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Varget for me, 24.5 grains behind 60 Gr V Max shoots sub MOA

Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16488730 10/01/21
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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: doubleDs55] #16489172 10/01/21
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Originally Posted by doubleDs55
Another thing with LVR is it's available [around here and online} and it gets them bullets humming. I love the stuff in several calibers including the ones it was made for. Work up loads like other ball powders, simple , don't work up loads when it's -10 and then go hunting/shooting when it's 90 out.
Which is not usually the case anyways. You'd have to really try to overload 223/5.56 anyways.


I'm not sure you physically COULD cram enough Leverevolution into a 223 case to get in serious trouble. I suppose it's possible, but I have stuffed some totally stupid charge weights of Lever under a Hornady 75 bthp in an ar, and I don't think I ever saw anything terribly scary happen.

Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16491262 10/02/21
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I shoot Lake City Nato cases with Fed AR match primers with 23 grains of H4895. I average around 2675fps out of a 20 inch barrel with a NATO chamber/75 grain Hornady. If you try that load with CCI #41's you will see 100fps more velocity and pressure. CCI #41's make H4895 go bezerk!!

On the other hand, i use the 41's with 26.1 grains of H4895 for my Sierra #1390's and get 3000 fps from a 16 inch carbine. That is my main suppressed Coyote load. It was not easy for me to find a powder to clear 3000 fps out of a 16 inch barrel and have very small groups.

I have done a bit of load testing with AR-Comp, IMR XBR 8208, PP 2000, PP Varmint and RL 15.

Going way above book max i was barely able to clear 2600fps with RL15. XBR was fine at round 2650fps. I felt like i was pushing the brass though.... AR-Comp was good in the low 2600 fps range.

The power pro's gave blitzkrieg velocities like i have never seen. 2800 fps+ with no pressure. Accuracy was good some days and poor most others. I gave up.

Another persons experiences will be different. These where mine.

Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16491436 10/02/21
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Not often thought of, but H 380 is a good 223 powder for 70 plus grain bullets


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Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in .223 [Re: fshaw] #16491822 10/02/21
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Varget or CFE 223 works well in the Rock River AR’s I have.

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