Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A chief denier is dead, another is gravely ill

Of course he is. He’s a liberal socialist scum

Only my daughter who is an RN hasn't taken it. You and I see eye to eye on Fauci. He rates near the top of the list of those to whom I'd like to give a Cleveland Steamer. He's a political hack and has done irreparable harm to this country.

Needless to say, no logic can explain the public rationale for it, because if it works, being vaccinated provides protection against anyone who has it and might spread it to you, therefore, it can be of little concern to anyone that's vaccinated what someone else's vaccination status is, unless the vaccine doesn't work. And if it doesn't work, then there's no rationale for anyone taking it.

Bingo!

They are the dupes.

Have quite a few friends who are docs and in private most have lots of reservations but don’t want any more trouble for the last 5-10 years of their careers. Obamacare has caused enough damage. Longer hours, lower pay, treated like [bleep] by the corporate owners of the industrial medical complex. Most recommend against taking that career path now.

This whole fuucking thing is just too bizarre. Some folks get it and don’t get very sick (like me). For myself, West Nile was worse.

Others that get sick, get extremely ill or die. When they get gravely ill, it almost always seems there is some underlying health condition that is magnified. It’s like the virus is targeting exploiting weaknesses.

I am shocked that it didn’t kill both of my parents back in January. Although mom did pass in February from cancer.

For me, I don’t trust the government or its minions.

When someone develops an actual vaccine without likely side effects. These jabs are not vaccines. Promoting them makes it more likely you will not receive treatment for china virus when you get it.

The jab pushers will let you die needlessly rather than do anything making the jab a harder sell.

I am a freedom of choice person. We do not KNOW that there will not be long term side effects, though some pretty good science shows that is unlikely with the kind of drugs used in the various vaccines. I'd prefer people be allowed to make their own decisions. With that said, it's pretty clear that there are benefits to the vaccine. For a while (the length of time is variable variable) after the vaccine, it does offer very good protection from getting COVID. Then when the effects start to wear off, the vaccinated haven't been getting nearly as sick as the unvaccinated.

What's conspicuously absent from any national discussion is immunity among those who have had COVID.

COVID is going to be with us for the rest of our lives. COVID's engineers were very smart.

COVID has proven to be maddeningly confounding. Obesity and diabetes seem to be the comorbidities most likely to doom someone. The young seem to be well protected. Beyond that it has been remarkably unpredictable.

That's an intellectually lazy comment, and I am pretty confident that you don't even believe it. Why would a very large group of doctors and medical professionals of all ages and all political walks of life almost universally take the jab? The simple, logical and accurate answer is that they have done a risk/gain analysis and arrived at the conclusion that there is more to gain from it than there are potential risks.

I am 41. Not skinny and I am diabetic. Still not taking their poison dart. Been working with the public through the entire saga and most of the time without a mask.

Just now saw a couple people I knew die from it. That does unsettle me a bit but the facts are still facts. 99.5 percent are still gonna live. And it's more dangerous by far for me to drive to work than that.

I am not participating in their scam just like I did not participate in the Obama years of all that "the market is down we are all gonna die" BS.

I have decided on my course of action and I will live with whatever consequences occur from it.

Tired of the whiny pussy behavior and the lack of common sense and ability to see through the BS by the general public.

Sometimes freedom is expensive. Let's get to it.

In some ways what is happening to the LE community is happening to the medical community. Soon, self-respecting people will want nothing to do with the professions.

How many people have to be conspirators?
How many Democrats and liberals want to destroy America?
My guess is a small percentage.
They are either focused on their special interest,
Or have a blind faith in the party.

How hard is it for many doctors to individually contradict the
inertia of the whole industry? In that situation you would have to
feel very confident in your knowledge of s specialty that's probably
outside your wheelhouse.

Meanwhile, the law is giving liability waivers to the vaxx makers,
And in some states telling you you can't use drugs off label to
treat covid. (But using off label is something you do daily)


It's not hard for me to understand them pushing it.

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I don't think most doctors have an agenda but then again most doctors are not being told the truth just as we are not being told the truth.

I believe most of the docs are going by what the CDC says as are most publications that doctors use. When this so called "Pandemic" started a fireman I work with was adamant about going by what the CDC said, now he says you can't believe anything the CDC says.

You have to admit there has been a lot of deceit and desperation on the part of the vaccine.

I don't think most doctors have an agenda but then again most doctors are not being told the truth just as we are not being told the truth.

I believe most of the docs are going by what the CDC says as are most publications that doctors use. When this so called "Pandemic" started a fireman I work with was adamant about going by what the CDC said, now he says you can't believe anything the CDC says.

You have to admit there has been a lot of deceit and desperation on the part of the vaccine.
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I am confident that many doctors simply trust their institution. I mentioned my brother in a previous thread. He's a doctor. One of his friends developed the Moderna vaccine. He knows him and has talked with him. He's done his homework and is confident the vaccine is safe and effective.

Many people have lost faith in the medical institution over this. That's what happens when academics, bureaucrats and political hacks like Fauci weaponize a health care crisis. Tying that in with my brother. He is the president of both a teaching and research college within a university hospital system. He spends an incredible amount of time trying to raise money for the college. What kind of long term effects will this have on people's willingness to give to a medical community if many have lost faith in it?

I've had two, an' I ain't dead yet.

Most doctors just look around the hospitals where they work and see the unvaccinated stacked up like cord wood, sucking up all the beds and resources, while other deserving patients die in the ER lobby of non-covid issues because there are no beds to be had, anywhere.

Were all different Internally, and we all react to things Differently!

We All Have OUR Rights and choose Accordingly.

What effects Me might not Affect Someone Else!

We make our choices and Have to Live with them!

This is how we, my immediate family, go about most things and IMO, the right way to go about it.
Although, it can be hard to suppress the emotions by which we are all influenced.