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So I looked into getting into the PCP game. By the time I purchased something like a .22 Benjamin Marauder for $640, a decent scope for $350 (arguably you would need one on any platform) and a decent 300 Bar compressor for $1,100, I might as well buy a .22 pistol or rifle with a suppressor and shoot 40 grain subsonic ammo with far superior terminal performance. Of course you have to wait forever for a suppressor, but the entry into PCP ain't like the old air rifle days; it's more of a commitment.

Am I sizing this up correctly? Are there any advantages over a suppressed .22?

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My neighbor gave me a Beeman chief pcp that needed repair. It's a $180 rifle .22 cal. I repaired it & bought a Chinese handpump for $50 & It's shooting 1/2 -3/4 groups at 30 yards. Maybe better with the right pellets. My point is, when you can find this rifle in stock your gonna pay $250 for a rifle & a pump. I put an old nikon on this one, but any scope you may have extra that holds zero should be sufficient depending on what your trying to do. After shooting this cheap pcp I'll never fool with a break barrel again. I've destroyed to many scopes already.

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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
So I looked into getting into the PCP game. By the time I purchased something like a .22 Benjamin Marauder for $640, a decent scope for $350 (arguably you would need one on any platform) and a decent 300 Bar compressor for $1,100, I might as well buy a .22 pistol or rifle with a suppressor and shoot 40 grain subsonic ammo with far superior terminal performance. Of course you have to wait forever for a suppressor, but the entry into PCP ain't like the old air rifle days; it's more of a commitment.

Am I sizing this up correctly? Are there any advantages over a suppressed .22?


None, other than legally shooting it inside the City Limits of some City Municipality


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But if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, it's sorta legal... right? But I get your point.


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Ain't for the timid. That Rizinni BR 550 could have been had in 28 !


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Hmm 500 rounds of ammo IN STOCK for $20 vs out of stock 22 sub sonic for how much? Also no paper trail on Gun
No brainer here just wish I had found the pcp path yrs ago


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Hmm 500 rounds of ammo IN STOCK for $20 vs out of stock 22 sub sonic for how much? Also no paper trail on Gun
No brainer here just wish I had found the pcp path yrs ago

Good point


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STRSWilson, I can send you an excellent condition, almost pristine, synthetic stock .22 Benjamin Marauder with a Hill MK3 hand pump to keep it charged for less than $500. I've even got a scope and rings I can make you a deal on also.
You will not need a suppressor for a Marauder.

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I bought a Air Venturi Avenger - $299
Hill MKV hand pump - $199
Hawke AirMax 3-9x40 scope - $220

Prices are up a bit since i got into it almost a year ago.

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They're definitely pricey to get into, but I know I'd never go back to a springer or NP after a PCP. The smoothness is well worth it if you're a high volume airgun shooter, imho. Probably not so much to someone just plinking a few shots here and there.

I do just wish there were still some multipump pneumatics on the market in bores bigger than 177 though. Benjamin still offers one, but that new synthetic stock is terrible for anyone who prefers sights over a scope.

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My three reasons that air rifles have a place in the rack.

Pellets won't fly as far as a subsonic .22 bullet because they lose stability faster. I shoot nuisance birds every weekend at a location that is safe with a shotgun or a pellet gun. I could not safely take those same shots with a suppressed .22 cal. Maximum distance of flight for a pellet is about 800 yards. Shotguns (with birdshot) is about 300 yards.

Also any average PCP will outshoot any average .22 rifle. A .22 that'll shoot as well as a moderately tuned PCP is a rarity.

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There is a good selection of pcp gun/pump combo packages on Pyramyd air.
Many can be had for under $500. Pellets run in the $15 for 350 range for the better ones.
YouTube has a bunch of “ratting”, pest control, iguana hunting videos to get a taste of the fun factor.
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I live 10 minutes away from Airguns of Arizona in the winter. Been an expensive problem. Last purchase was a Daystate Redwolf Safari in 25 caliber.i fill from a carbon fiber tank. Free refills at shop.
Bought a scope today. I can shoot in the back yard, I won't shoot a suppressed 22 in the back yard


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I'll get you in with a Hill pump and Marauder for $500....

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.22s are definitely a better option for me, for now. I have a magnum springer and a CO2 pistol for yard shooting. The cheap route for PCP is a hand pump, but volume shooting will make that get old pretty quickly, and the pumps require a certain amount of maintenance, as do compressors. If there’s a dive shop or other place nearby you can get a tank filled, that seems like a good compromise.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I bought a Air Venturi Avenger - $299
Hill MKV hand pump - $199
Hawke AirMax 3-9x40 scope - $220

Prices are up a bit since i got into it almost a year ago.




MM, is this quiet?


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Went in heavy a year or so ago. Couldn’t be happier. FX Impact, SS 12x Mil, Great White tank, cheap Chinese compressor.

Haven’t even plugged in compressor yet. Local Scuba shop fills my tank for $12. One fill lasts a long time.

Pellets are cheep. $80 for 2500 JSB 18g from Utah air. On my third order now.

Tuned at 915fps. More accurate than any rimfire I own or have owned.

Going slugs next. Friend already has with great results.

Fact is I took the plunge after seeing first hand what his can do. Saved and sold off some stuff to make it happen.

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Originally Posted by Stan V
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I bought a Air Venturi Avenger - $299
Hill MKV hand pump - $199
Hawke AirMax 3-9x40 scope - $220

Prices are up a bit since i got into it almost a year ago.




MM, is this quiet?


No it's not really quiet. If you dial down the regulator to 1100 psi or so it might fall into the 'backyard friendly' category. Up at around 2000 psi where I have mine now, it's pretty loud. I put a small suppressor on it from Donny FL. That helps a lot. A bigger suppressor would do more, but I wanted the smallest one to keep overall gun size from being too crazy.

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TY. I have a dive shop near me to fill tanks and now I'm thinking to cry once and go FX Dreamline in .22


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Originally Posted by Stan V
TY. I have a dive shop near me to fill tanks and now I'm thinking to cry once and go FX Dreamline in .22


That's not a bad idea. I had to do it the hard way. Three break-barrels, then two PCPs Then two scopes. All together spent around $1800 in all of that. Could have bought one top-shelf gun and a nice scope.

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