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I see 1960's Smith and Wesson revolvers in .38 Special listed for sale on another website as "Curio and Relic" eligible. Yeah its 50 yrs old but it shoots a cartridge that is still available, sort of. What is going on?
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Cartridge has nothing to do with the qualification criteria. Period.
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What IS the qualification criteria - just for my information?
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Easily googled, which will send you directly to ATF website where it is condensed into three sentences. Basically...50 yrs old, or commonly acknowledged to be collectible and/or derives a good portion of it's value from collectibility and collectible for reasons of association with an historical event, persons, or time period. All three criteria need not be met, one of the three is sufficient. Example, if Gen Mark Milley wanted to sell me a current issue Chinese Army pistol...it would qualify as C&R, because he is famous...so it need not be 50 yrs old, or commonly found in museum collections.
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Also in many states a curio and relic firearms can be shipped directly to your house if you have a CR license
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Related question.
When a C&R holder lets their license expire, what's the record keeping requirement for their C&R purchases into and out of their collection? Suppose to send in? Keep for X years?
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So a friends 1967 western marshall, 1951 99, 1923 remington, 1968 Mk 1, 1971 cap n ball qualify?
Maybe his RG 57 and enfield that was butchered in the 60s?
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Also in many states a curio and relic firearms can be shipped directly to your house if you have a CR license Are there states that deny this? That is the point of a C&R.
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Easily googled, which will send you directly to ATF website where it is condensed into three sentences. Basically...50 yrs old, or commonly acknowledged to be collectible and/or derives a good portion of it's value from collectibility and collectible for reasons of association with an historical event, persons, or time period. All three criteria need not be met, one of the three is sufficient. Example, if Gen Mark Milley wanted to sell me a current issue Chinese Army pistol...it would qualify as C&R, because he is famous...so it need not be 50 yrs old, or commonly found in museum collections. You win todays innanet. 🤣 "White Rage" Model can be attributed to any Milley-sourced commie chink pistol, therefore upping the price.
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Once you are unlicensed, you have no further responsibility to store the records. But...the big but...nobody, I mean nobody, can find that statement in ATF Regs. That is commonly repeated on the strength of a letter from an ATF to the question of a former C&R license holder...and has been repeated. Unfortunately, in my case, the records were destroyed in a recent flood.
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So a friends 1967 western marshall, 1951 99, 1923 remington, 1968 Mk 1, 1971 cap n ball qualify?
Maybe his RG 57 and enfield that was butchered in the 60s? Yes, all. The RG 57 and Enfield may have issues as they were altered.
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Also in many states a curio and relic firearms can be shipped directly to your house if you have a CR license Are there states that deny this? That is the point of a C&R. Yes...mine for one
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Certifiable, A licensee may receive an eligible firearm from out of state. It is your responsibility to file a CA 4100A. You must file a BOF961 in-state...this one is a claymore mine, be ultra cautious and go through a dealer so it is in DOJ electronic system.
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Once you are unlicensed, you have no further responsibility to store the records. But...the big but...nobody, I mean nobody, can find that statement in ATF Regs. That is commonly repeated on the strength of a letter from an ATF to the question of a former C&R license holder...and has been repeated. Unfortunately, in my case, the records were destroyed in a recent flood. Thanks. Sadly mine too were destroyed, by ground squirrels in my storage building while I was out of the area for 7 weeks in 2017...
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Certifiable, A licensee may receive an eligible firearm from out of state. It is your responsibility to file a CA 4100A. You must file a BOF961 in-state...this one is a claymore mine, be ultra cautious and go through a dealer so it is in DOJ electronic system. Flint... I think we’re talking about different avenues? I have never purchased from out of state then brought a CR in to CA myself, and is my understanding that’s where the 4100A applies. Buying from out of state (online) and having the CR shipped in goes thru my ffl as per usual. There are advantages here for having a CR license in conjunction with a COE.. but that’s a different topic
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