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Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16426632 09/12/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 150,857 Texas hanco Campfire Savant
hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 150,857 Texas	The 358 Winchester is gonna get real popular there.

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Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of TheKid #16426692 09/12/21
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tcp Campfire Regular T Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 907 midwest	Originally Posted by TheKid On the other hand with the advent of super muzzleloaders using shotgun primers, smokeless powder, scopes, and high BC bullets. I wish my state would either go back to primitive style muzzleloaders, allow us to use a handgun even and preferably straight wall only, or do away with the whole “primitive” season and just let us shoot our two bucks with a rifle. I’m the only guy I know who still hunts with a sidelock using loose powder and lead bullets. "Muzzeloader season" is now just a euphemism for single shot rifle season. I hunted a lot with a muzzleloader during regular deer season back when there were no inline, shotgun primer, scoped, stainless "muzzleloaders" that now have a special season. If you are being granted a special season for a primitive weapon then the weapon should actually be a replica of a primitive weapon. I feel the same way about crossbows in archery season. If you want to claim you crossbow is primitive then maybe it should only have sights and limb technology available when firearms superseded crossbows historically. If you can't be a good example, may you at least serve as a dreadful warning

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16426862 09/12/21
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Windfall Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,366 WI./FL.	Years back, WI. had a shotgun only zone encompassing much of the southern part of the state. Then somebody looked at the statistics of accidents and found that they were actually higher in the shotgun only zones. WI. is now rifles allowed statewide. My other auto is a .45 The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16426908 09/12/21
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The_Big_Game_Hunter Campfire Member T Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 239 USA	Originally Posted by HawkI Can now hunt in Shotgun 1 and 2 seasons with a 35 Whelen, 375 HH, 416 Rigby.... Rifles above .350 diameter exceeding 500 ft. lbs. of energy. The DNR wasn't a big supporter, but laws are laws and regs are regs; I'm happy they saw the light. I just hope everyone is safe and enjoys some of the fruits of having more firearm options this deer season. Oh wow, that's really cool! I had no idea you could hunt with rifles that didn't use straight-wall cartridges any more. Africa Hunting Safaris, Cape Buffalo Hunting, & Other Big Game Hunting Adventures

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16426984 09/12/21
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roundoak Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,653 Badger State	We have a young lad in our Wisconsin deer camp who heard about the Iowa deer hunting change and wants to take his .350 Legend over there. You're Welcome At My Fire Anytime

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Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16429826 09/13/21
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George_De_Vries_3rd Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,086	Ok, so I went all celebratory over the weekend and bought my self a real HawkenHammer, an ‘80’s vintage 99A in 358 Winner. I would still have liked to have been in the room listening to the DNR’s advice on cartridge regulations —“heck Al, I’m going to set up on that high spot in your been field with my Barret 50 BMG.” 😉

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of George_De_Vries_3rd #16430558 09/13/21
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LEADMINER Campfire Regular L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,665 S.W. Wis	That one will do!!!

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16431395 09/13/21
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M1Garand Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan	Originally Posted by HawkI Shotguns have gotten better, but still nauseating to be forced to use. Always thought the same thing in the southern zone here until they allowed certain rifles to be used. Good news for Iowa. Hopefully both can change their feel good firearm laws in these areas even further.

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16431421 09/13/21
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117LBS Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,027 Pontotoc Co.	500 ft lbs at the muzzle? Doesn’t the 357 magnum do that? Sounds like everything 35 caliber is on the table. Hell...Reloading/Shooting are still my favorite things to do,besides play in the box the kids came in.................

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16431996 09/13/21
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SLDUCK Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,097	George. U spent some doughy for s 99a in 358. I'm shooting my 7600 whelen gitty up

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Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16432065 09/13/21
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Garandimal Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 3,012	RUGER 77/357... ... w/ 158-180 gr. XTP. GR

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16435040 09/14/21
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Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,867 Deer Park, Tx	What is the reason for all these goofy restrictions? "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of Reloder28 #16435435 09/14/21
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hillestadj Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 5,090 WI	Originally Posted by Reloder28 What is the reason for all these goofy restrictions? IOWA = Idiots Out Wandering Around

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of Reloder28 #16435809 09/15/21
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M1Garand Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan	Originally Posted by Reloder28 What is the reason for all these goofy restrictions? I don't know about IA, but in the southern part of MI it was the feel good law in the higher populated south, it was safer to use limited range shotguns or muzzleloaders rather than centerfire rifles. It's now a limited firearms zone you can use a straight wall cartridge case no longer than 1.8", 35 caliber and above. It's all bullchit, esp since several years ago PA did a study that debunked the safer myth.

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16435820 09/15/21
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M1Garand Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan	Originally Posted by Reloder28 What is the reason for all these goofy restrictions? I don't know about IA, but in the southern part of MI it was the feel good law in the higher populated south. They said it was safer to use limited range shotguns or muzzleloaders rather than centerfire rifles. It's now a limited firearms zone you can use a straight wall cartridge case no longer than 1.8", 35 caliber and above. It's all bullchit, esp since several years ago PA did a study that debunked the safer myth.

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16439855 09/16/21
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Jstocks Campfire Member J Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 417	So the cartridge law in Iowa has no limit for straight wall only calibers? Not limited to single shot?

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of Jstocks #16439976 09/16/21
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LEADMINER Campfire Regular L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,665 S.W. Wis	See p 38 of Iowa regs... RIFLES: Rifles firing straight wall or other centerfire ammunition propelling an expanding-type bullet with a maximum diameter of no less than .350 of an inch and no larger than .500 of an inch and with a published or calculated muzzle energy of 500 foot pounds or higher is legal for hunting deer during the youth and disabled hunting season and first and second shotgun seasons. The following is a partial list of allowable cartridges that has generated the most questions on legality. Cartridges meeting the criteria defined above are legal whether listed here or not. .35 Whelen .350 Legend .358 Winchester .375 Winchester .40 S&W .44 Magnum .444 Marlin .45 Long Colt .45 Raptor .450 Bushmaster .450 Marlin .45-70 Govt .460 S&W .500 S&

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of HawkI #16440211 09/16/21
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Llama_Bob Campfire Regular L Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313	Originally Posted by HawkI Can now hunt in Shotgun 1 and 2 seasons with a 35 Whelen, 375 HH, 416 Rigby.... Rifles above .350 diameter exceeding 500 ft. lbs. of energy. Damn, I just built a .375 WSM and it wasn't even for this. Be about perfect...

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of LEADMINER #16441177 09/16/21
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George_De_Vries_3rd Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,086	Originally Posted by LEADMINER See p 38 of Iowa regs... RIFLES: Rifles firing straight wall or other centerfire ammunition propelling an expanding-type bullet with a maximum diameter of no less than .350 of an inch and no larger than .500 of an inch and with a published or calculated muzzle energy of 500 foot pounds or higher is legal for hunting deer during the youth and disabled hunting season and first and second shotgun seasons. The following is a partial list of allowable cartridges that has generated the most questions on legality. Cartridges meeting the criteria defined above are legal whether listed here or not. .35 Whelen .350 Legend .358 Winchester .375 Winchester .40 S&W .44 Magnum .444 Marlin .45 Long Colt .45 Raptor .450 Bushmaster .450 Marlin .45-70 Govt .460 S&W .500 S& Yep, you can try hit that doe in the bean field from a mile away with your 416 Barrett, but your neighbor can’t legally hunt his river bottom with his 30/30. Brilliant!

Re: Finally: Iowa Begins to Exit Stone Age: Sort Of tcp #16593598 11/04/21
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selmer Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 6,923 Upper Midwest	Originally Posted by tcp Originally Posted by TheKid On the other hand with the advent of super muzzleloaders using shotgun primers, smokeless powder, scopes, and high BC bullets. I wish my state would either go back to primitive style muzzleloaders, allow us to use a handgun even and preferably straight wall only, or do away with the whole “primitive” season and just let us shoot our two bucks with a rifle. I’m the only guy I know who still hunts with a sidelock using loose powder and lead bullets. "Muzzeloader season" is now just a euphemism for single shot rifle season. I hunted a lot with a muzzleloader during regular deer season back when there were no inline, shotgun primer, scoped, stainless "muzzleloaders" that now have a special season. If you are being granted a special season for a primitive weapon then the weapon should actually be a replica of a primitive weapon. I feel the same way about crossbows in archery season. If you want to claim you crossbow is primitive then maybe it should only have sights and limb technology available when firearms superseded crossbows historically. Literally, as I can (and do) legally use a .357 Maximum barrel on my TC Encore for late muzzleloader season, as pistols are legal for this season as well. My gun is technically a pistol, but with an 18" barrel, it's more like a hand rifle. Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter

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