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Failure to research by authors... #16415798 09/08/21
Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 16,865 O OldmanoftheSea OP Campfire Ranger
OP OldmanoftheSea Campfire Ranger O Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 16,865	I didn't know if we had a thread for this.. but figured it was a pretty good topic.... So I was just reading a book by one of Clancy's disciples... one who didn't get another shot... he is a college professor so he should be able to do a bit of research but... There is a scene where the protagonist has a "High powered military grade sniper rifle" chambered in ... 7.62x5 mm Nato.... Holy Short round!! call me crazy but isn't a primer 3-4mm (from back to front)... funny stuff.. -OMotS "If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.

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Re: Failure to research by authors... OldmanoftheSea #16415992 09/08/21
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g5m Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 19,495 desert	The book on "Killing Reagan" by O'Reilly and Dugard has the story of the biggest elephant being killed by 13 four inch bullets. There's just a lot of writing about guns by people who don't know much about them. Retired cat herder.

Re: Failure to research by authors... g5m #16418310 09/09/21
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,363 Idaho, USA Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,363 Idaho, USA	Originally Posted by g5m The book on "Killing Reagan" by O'Reilly and Dugard has the story of the biggest elephant being killed by 13 four inch bullets. There's just a lot of writing about guns by people who don't know much about them. Ah yes, the famous 100x63mm Mauser! Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!

Re: Failure to research by authors... OldmanoftheSea #16425328 09/11/21
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Leanwolf Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,339 Idaho	I was watching a video lecture the other night about some subject I can't recall, and the lecturer was speaking of weapons and said that a spear could be even more powerful than a ".45 MM handgun." I thought, that'd take one helluva spear." A lot of writers know virtually nothing about firearms other than what they see on teevee, written by other ignorant writers. Oh well .... L.W. "Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)

Re: Failure to research by authors... OldmanoftheSea #16427376 09/12/21
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flintlocke Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 9,055 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State	Ya gotta love the authors who have endlessly repeated "the stink of cordite filled the room"...since Agatha Christie started writing in 1914, I believe cordite pretty well fell out of favor many years ago. Kurt Schlicter, fiction author, political opinionist, has used it recently in his trilogy depicting the split of America...which, in my view, pretty well disqualifies him as an urban combat advisor. Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

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Re: Failure to research by authors... flintlocke #16428111 09/12/21
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g5m Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 19,495 desert	Originally Posted by flintlocke Ya gotta love the authors who have endlessly repeated "the stink of cordite filled the room"...since Agatha Christie started writing in 1914, I believe cordite pretty well fell out of favor many years ago. Kurt Schlicter, fiction author, political opinionist, has used it recently in his trilogy depicting the split of America...which, in my view, pretty well disqualifies him as an urban combat advisor. There used to be a lot of it around in Brit surplus 303 ammo. Spaghetti. Retired cat herder.

Re: Failure to research by authors... g5m #16440966 09/16/21
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OP OldmanoftheSea Campfire Ranger O Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 16,865	Originally Posted by g5m Originally Posted by flintlocke Ya gotta love the authors who have endlessly repeated "the stink of cordite filled the room"...since Agatha Christie started writing in 1914, I believe cordite pretty well fell out of favor many years ago. Kurt Schlicter, fiction author, political opinionist, has used it recently in his trilogy depicting the split of America...which, in my view, pretty well disqualifies him as an urban combat advisor. There used to be a lot of it around in Brit surplus 303 ammo. Spaghetti. no concerns with where the powder is with a spaghetti load..... -OMotS "If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.

Re: Failure to research by authors... OldmanoftheSea #16456286 09/21/21
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OP OldmanoftheSea Campfire Ranger O Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 16,865	After reading the thread on shooting a gas can i decided to run a fouler through a little 10x6" plastic jug.. Interesting result when you compare to all of those scenes where a character is thrown backwards when being on the receiving end of a gunshot... The jug had a neat little entry hole but the back unzipped like a couple of barn doors. And the jug landed 10 feet [u[closer[/u] to me than where it was sitting... Now if the jug had a spine to catch the bullet it may have flown backwards, but water jet out the back certainly made for some interesting movement... -OMotS "If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.

Re: Failure to research by authors... OldmanoftheSea #16537280 10/17/21
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OP OldmanoftheSea Campfire Ranger O Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 16,865	In "Shutter Island" the German officer lying on the carpet who failed and shot himself through the cheek on his firs attempt is reaching for a Walther PPK/s, which was not developed until the late 1960s.. -OMotS "If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.

Re: Failure to research by authors... Leanwolf #16547035 10/20/21
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K1500 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,199	Originally Posted by Leanwolf I was watching a video lecture the other night about some subject I can't recall, and the lecturer was speaking of weapons and said that a spear could be even more powerful than a ".45 MM handgun." I thought, that'd take one helluva spear." A lot of writers know virtually nothing about firearms other than what they see on teevee, written by other ignorant writers. Oh well .... L.W. Mmmmm, I don’t know. A .45 mm handgun would be pretty small. Roughly 0.018 inches. Probably not much power unless the velocity was sky high.

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