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Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks

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This is a controversial issue. Some say a Sako is prone to flying back into the shooters face. Then there are those that like the M-16 extractor. Both work well, I've done both for myself with no issues with either. I think the Sako is smoother and less fussy.

Either way, I would go to accurateshooter.com, and do a search for carlsbad (user name). He does great work and is fast turnaround.

When I say smoother, they are more "tunable" IMO. I have a old Farley action that has reliably pulled everything I have fed it and didn't send the case into the next zip code. Many new custom action use a Sako style extractor. The M-16 is positive and reliable, but I haven't worked with mine enough to find out how it will respond to tuning.

Some offer actions that will pull and eject either PPC cases or BR cases. Only one I have seen does it well.

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Originally Posted by Nestucca
Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks


Why?


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I like the ejection angle on the factory extractors much better. So many m16 and sako style eject the case right into the windage turret then it bounces back into the action. I like bighorn custom actions now mainly just because of their after ejection angle.

If I wanted cases bouncing off the scope back into the action all the time I'd just use sako 85s

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I've done it on a Rem 722 when there were no extractors available for them, it works great and turned my old 300 savage into a coyote killing 22-250.


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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I like the ejection angle on the factory extractors much better. So many m16 and sako style eject the case right into the windage turret then it bounces back into the action. I like bighorn custom actions now mainly just because of their after ejection angle.

If I wanted cases bouncing off the scope back into the action all the time I'd just use sako 85s

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I'm not up to snuff on the ease of instillation or the serviceability of the 2.

But to me, the M-16 unit seems like it has a ton more availability of the two & will have for years/decades to come. Is this a plus?

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Originally Posted by deflave
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Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks


Why?

Because after 43 years and three barrels the factory original has give up and I can’t find a OEM extractor

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Jim Kobe in Bloomington has done several for me. Specifically the were done on Rem XR100 single shots. I had them rebarreled to 20 Vt and 22PPC. Neither ejected properly before the Sako extractor but did after the Sako extractor.


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Originally Posted by Nestucca
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Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks


Why?

Because after 43 years and three barrels the factory original has give up and I can’t find a OEM extractor


That is the greatest answer in the history of answers.


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Kobe does great work.
The original Sako has a non rotating rail block that keeps a blown case head from sending ejector parts down the raceway. The M16 is different in that it’s pinned to the bolt. The Sako is not. Therein lies the weakness. The Sako works good but if it fails it can do damage.

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Originally Posted by deflave
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Originally Posted by Nestucca
Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks


Why?

Because after 43 years and three barrels the factory original has give up and I can’t find a OEM extractor


That is the greatest answer in the history of answers.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I like the ejection angle on the factory extractors much better. So many m16 and sako style eject the case right into the windage turret then it bounces back into the action. I like bighorn custom actions now mainly just because of their after ejection angle.

If I wanted cases bouncing off the scope back into the action all the time I'd just use sako 85s

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Not if installed right and the springs (both extractor and ejector) tuned to work.

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That would be the way to go right there.

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I've never been a fan of the original Remington spring clip extractor. In 223 it'll scar the case heads and even give trouble with Lapua cases; at least mine did. They do function as advertised and are strong enough to extract. It was a design element that was necessary to implement the "three rings of steel' advertisement. M700 actions are strong and the most copied action in history. It is easy to set up in a lathe for checking concentricity. It's easy to chamber a new barrel for. It changed the game for Benchrest competition as did the PPC. It's just not a favorite of mine. I believe the Mini 16 extractor does a decent job of extraction without damaging case heads and I also relieve some tension off the spring of the damnable plunger extractor.
I understand why Remington never did any modifications to the action but I believe many of the clones do a better job of extraction and ejection without mitigating the design elements of the M700. The days are gone when the major manufacturers were the only offerings for hunters and competitors. The same can be said with chamberings. Some of the factory chamberings have been improved on to the benefit of hunters and competitors. Todays shooting community have more choices and better choices than ever and that's a good thing. A host of great chamberings have come from shooters and copied by major firearms manufacturers that managed to create their various design faults in order to claim it for themselves.

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Thanks Boomer and Craigster. The one on eBay was used and after talking to Darrel Holland last night I asked him if we could use one I have on a donor action and he didn’t recommend it as it’s easy to screw it up during removal. I’m going to order the one Craigster found. Thanks to all that replied.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Nestucca
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Looking for a competent smith to install on my 700 with a .473 bolt face. Thanks


Why?

Because after 43 years and three barrels the factory original has give up and I can’t find a OEM extractor


That is the greatest answer in the history of answers.


Nah, mine is..get a Model 70... smile


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Dale06: I am startled (puzzled?) at your contention regarding the XR-100's you own and shoot not "ejecting properly"!
I currently own and shoot 6 (six!) Remington XR-100's in various calibers and they ALL "eject properly"!
I am puzzled about your contention - maybe this question will clarify things - did they "eject properly" before they were "customized"?
I also have owned two other XR-100's and they also ejected properly.
The only caliber of Remington XR-100 I have not owned is the limited edition model in 308 Winchester - so can't comment on their extraction.
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