Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 30-06 200gr load

I tried working up some RL 23 and 200 partitions. I could not get enough of it in the case to get over 2,550 fps out of a 22" bbl. But it was accurate.

I tried Re 23 as well. It is a good deal less dense then Re26.

How does RL-23 density compare with RL-22 and MRP?

DF

I’d give you my opinion but the problem is 22 and 25 could be so different from 5lb jug to the next it just wouldn’t do anyone any good. I will say that most all of my old loads with 22 are within 1-2 grains with RL23, but I haven’t tried a pile of them yet.

I kinda see it the same way most see IMR4350/4451. Close enough but still warrants a little chronograph work to match them.

Thanks.

I've been replacing RL-22 with RL-23, just haven't used it that much to compare the two. After hearing the density issue, it got me to thinking.

MRP would probably be an OK sub for RL-22 without density issues, if in fact that's a problem with RL-23. MPR temp sensitivity may be no better the RL-22, it's reportedly more lot to lot consistent. And, I have a big jug of MRP.

I also have a can of 4451, just never tried it. I was able to find a big jug of H-4350, so am in good supply for the time being. I prefer H-4350 to IMR-4350, although have used both to good effect. May have to work up some 4451 loads one of these days...

A Loony's work is never done...

DF

That’s a fact!

MRP and RL22 are blood brothers if not twins, right?

Correct (twins)

My experiences with the 200 gr Partitions began back in the mid 1980's when Nosler switched over from screw machining the 375 bullets and they became difficult to find in Alaska. I had been using a M70 375 H&H for all my guiding and was well aware that it was the bullet that did all the killing.

I still had a lot of 200 gr Partitions for my 30-06 and discovered they penetrated every bit as well as the 300 gr Partitions from my 375, so I began using the 30-06.

Still do and was carrying it last week while guiding moose hunters .

What's your fav load, 200 gr. NPT's in the '06?

DF

Not 458Win, but 52.0 grains of IMR 4350 with a 200 gr. bullet of your choice shoots to the same zero as the old Federal Premium 200 grain load (and is slightly more accurate) in my rifles. I’m still using up a lifetime supply of Lake City Match brass, so you can likely up the load a grain for domestic, commercial brass. 57.0 grains of the surplus H4831 in the same brass also shoots to the same zero, so seems to duplicate the IMR 4350 load.

The old Federal 200 grain Premium ammo seemed to be loaded with a Sierra SPBT, a “GameKing” in today’s marketing parlance. It was good stuff, hated to see it go, but was glad I could duplicate it. I worked it up before I owned a chronograph, so can’t tell you how fast it is/isn’t going. Deer aren’t a fan.

Thanks for that info. I have vintage H-4831 that’s still good. I also have MRP, RL-22, 23 and H-4350. Just need to put some loads together snd check’em out.

DF

Something that needs to be said is the 200gr partition in the ol 06 works at sedate speeds as well. The load mentioned above by John0313 is a good load, but it is slow. That load will still penetrate an elk stem to stern. Don't underestimate it and don't think you need a load pushing 2700-2800 to do the trick either...

For an old thread I did long ago using H 4831SC in the 06.... I got flamed but Nosler's Ballistician Mike, came on and stated you can't get enough 4831SC in an 06 case to exceed SAAMI specs.....

My load, which I have used in a Browning A Bolt. a 1903 Springfield, Remington 700, a couple of Model 70s, and a pair of 1917 Enfields..

62.5 grains of 4831SC, needs a crimp, I used a roll crimp....200 gr Sierra or Speer..

IIRC:

in a 22 inch barrel from the Browning.. 2850 fps...

24 inch Barrel Model 70s, 2900 fps

26 inch Enfield 1917 model, 2950 fps...

worked that up after I noticed what the pressure specs were for Book Published Loads with 4831.. and some one asked what was the most punch capable with an 06.

I tested that with both the 200 grainers and the 220 grainers...

if anyone tries it work it up from Load Manual specs

Max load with 4831/SC was 65 grains ( and definitely needed a crimp), and that was with a Hornady 190 SP....

Wow. I can’t touch that with surplus H4831 and GI brass. I think 58 grains was all I could stuff in a LC Match case with a 200 gr. NPT.

Never tried it with military brass.. just commercial brass....

hey did notice you're from Northern Va.. I like your 'occupied' addition....

That was home for me in my youth. I graduated West Springfield High School, back when NOVA was still part of the south.

Left to go to college in New England and never went back..... too many damn people, and all from somewhere else or some other country...

I miss the Virginia I grew up in, but its long gone nowadays.

Seafire

I know what you mean.

I MISS america that I grew up in,


Jerry

I wish I had some 'way' or 'place' to store this for future ref.


Thnx

Jerry