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Murder, manslaughter, and sexual assault are also common reasons for a Dishonorable Discharge. A murder is any intentional action that results in the loss of life, while manslaughter usually involves the unintentional loss of life. This of course does not apply to combat situations when a loss of life would be considered a casualty of war.
Also included are misconduct and substance abuse.Bidens son was guilty of both.

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Originally Posted by Huntz
Murder, manslaughter, and sexual assault are also common reasons for a Dishonorable Discharge. A murder is any intentional action that results in the loss of life, while manslaughter usually involves the unintentional loss of life. This of course does not apply to combat situations when a loss of life would be considered a casualty of war.
Also included are misconduct and substance abuse.Bidens son was guilty of both.


Can you repost this in English?

As stated: UCMJ universal code of military justice

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"Uniform". Not "universal".

Small, but important distinction.



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…..Uniform Code of Military Justice. Sheesh


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I was under the impression drugs would normally get an enlisted guy a Bad Chicken Dinner or maybe an Other than Honorable, but not a Dishonorable Discharge. I guess it would depend on the specifics but that was my (very) limited experience with drug users in the military.



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One can only get a dishonorable discharge as the result of a general court martial. Even then, it’s relatively rare.

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Yep.

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Good eye.I corrected it.


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My understanding was that a dishonerable was akin to a felony conviction.


One had to be found guilty of a similar deed?


Right, wrong, kinda?


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
One can only get a dishonorable discharge as the result of a general court martial. Even then, it’s relatively rare.


Times and definitions are a changin', JB.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
One can only get a dishonorable discharge as the result of a general court martial. Even then, it’s relatively rare.

Yes,but I gave the reasons for a Court Martial being held.As I pointed out Bidens kid committed two of them and was allowed to leave no punishment.


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Originally Posted by Huntz
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One can only get a dishonorable discharge as the result of a general court martial. Even then, it’s relatively rare.

Yes,but I gave the reasons for a Court Martial being held.As I pointed out Bidens kid committed two of them and was allowed to leave no punishment.


He was a direct commission who was in for about ten minutes. I think he failed his very first entry drug test. I imagine he got an ELS (entry level separation) as just about anyone in a similar situation would have.

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Biden's spawn was an officer.

Officer's cannot get discharged, whether honorable of dishonorable. They can be "dismissed from service"

This thread is worthless.


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I believe commissioned officers can get an Honorable Discharge Certificate, but not receive a BCD or DD. If they're separated due to a court martial ruling they get an equivalent rating known as a "Dismissal notice which is the same as a dishonorable discharge."
That's my google fu, at work.


Hell if I know. I was a lowly enlisted dude.



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Does the proposed law banning a Dishonorable for refusing the
clot shot mean anything.

Well, normally.
Would that be a factor if one refused to take immunizations in the past.
An actual dishonorable.


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It is a threat being thrown at persons of Valor but worms without honor.

I cannot imagine any possible way a DD would actually occur or stand.

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Usually it was an OTH for drug use and could be handed out by the old man as NJP. There were also lesser offenses that resulted in OTH like being repeatedly late or missing from your duty station. If there were other charges it could rise to BCD like going UA .


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Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by JoeBob
One can only get a dishonorable discharge as the result of a general court martial. Even then, it’s relatively rare.

Yes,but I gave the reasons for a Court Martial being held.As I pointed out Bidens kid committed two of them and was allowed to leave no punishment.


GENERAL Courts Martial. He was not given one of those.


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