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I have no idea if they are actually under rated but I had no idea how good the Weaver Grand Slams were till I got one from a member here
Maybe just under rated by me?
Hank I wish I had bought a pile of them when Natchez was closing them out. I have a Weaver Nitrex that I love.
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Another vote for the Bushnell Elites. Likewise, seems anything LOW produced was pretty solid, which can be substantiated by a lot of the responses to this thread.
I don't know that you can say the SWFA's are underated; everything you read about them is favorable. They're so well regarded that they're hard to come by these days.
I had really good service out of a couple USA built Burris Short Mags. Lots of rounds on heavy recoilers and a bunch of pounding around.
Also have a couple Japan Sightron 6x and the aforementioned 3.5-10. Really tough scopes that have stood up well through the years and are always spot on with adjustments. I'll likely never sell the 6x's.
To be fair, had a lot of good service from a lot of Leupolds used in set it and forget it capacities. But also had a good number of them make trips back to Beaverton, and had a whole lot of them not track worth a dang while trying to get them sighted in. It is by far the company with which I have the most experience. I agree on the Bushnell Elites made in Japan. The SWFAs are well regarded on this site, but I believe they are very underrated by the general hunting/shooting community.
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Jordan:
You're likely right on your SWFA assessment. I do see them at the local range once in awhile; however, they're not near as popular as other brands. Hereabouts Vortex has really taken over, as I'm located only a few hours' drive from their HQ. I recall a time in the not too distant past in which one could get all the SWFA 6x and 3-9HD you wanted on pretty good sales, whereas nowadays they're perpetually on back order. To me, this suggests that the word is definitely out.
In my opinion, SWFA could offer minimally changed variants of their popular scopes that are more conducive to the hunting situations I use them for, such as capped windage and a low profile elevation turret. But, I'm still happy with the ones I have and they obviously don't have trouble moving them as is. I've been really pleased with the quality and glass on the HD models I own. As such, I'd really like to see a 2-12HD with MQ that is basically styled after the 1-6.
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As I think more about this
Maybe anything Japanese
Hank
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The $399 zeiss conquests. This and the Big Sky Sightron
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As I think more about this
Maybe anything Japanese
Hank Made by LOW…
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Burris FF II
Redfield Revolution SWFA SS And Leupold 2-7v28mm compact
It is not about what you kill, it is about the hunt....
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Those Cabela's branded Meopta's were great. Could find some great deals on them. My vote as well. Just as good as the Zeiss Conquest MC at a lower price.
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The only scope I ever bought used ($100) was a Leupold M8 6x36, I put it on a Ruger Zytel stocked 7.62x39. I've sold off most of my collection but I really wish I had that combo back. That was a great little scope for my "camp gun" and the combo was hard to beat.
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I did buy some of the Weaver Classics[Japan]: 3-9x38mm, K4, and 1-3x20mm, Some of the best scopes I could for my use. Still have/use 'em save for the 3-9; it's still in the box.
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Vortex's Razor line.
Internet optics forum self-proclaimed pundits are quick to malign anything Vortex, with neither first hand experience, nor the knowledge that Vortex's Razor line is whole other levels above and beyond their budget scopes.
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For the money, Weaver Classics.
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Weaver classics are good for what they cost
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I have Leupolds, haven’t caused me any grief. ^^^This^^^ Me too however none of them are used for dialing
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Weaver Classics by a country mile. I have a bunch on rifles and some NIB ones waiting for homes.
The V16 4-16 is one of the best all around scopes, ever. I've got them with Duplex, fine cross hair, 3/8" dot (my favorite) and Ballistic X reticles.
The 40-44 series Weavers are also darn good.
Good shootin' -Al I have a 3.8-12X Intensity scope that was supposedly the 40-44 reincarnated. Aside from the duplex being heavier than I like for my particular application, (it's mounted on a very accurate 22 Hornet) it's a good scope, especially considering that I paid around a hundred bucks for it on clearance about 10-12 years ago.
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Ziess Conquest 3-9x40 Very good glass, 15.1 ounces. 4" of constant eye relief. forgiving eyebox, rock solid adjustments, good classic looks, good price, plenty of mounting length for long actions. What scope made today has all of these characteristics? NONE. I have 3 and one 4x32. RJ Except for the short eye relief, a Swarovski Z3 3x9 or 3x10 with the great 4A reticle is your huckleberry.
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For us older guys this is probably it, for many of us they were our introduction in the world of rifle scopes. They were affordable, sturdy and worked well. I am always amazed at how many of the original Weavers are still around after all of these years which says a lot for them. drover
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