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PA, it is hard on everything. I had a little windblown silt on the lenses of a scope, and tried to wipe the dust off with a q-tip. I ruined the lenses.

It is some sort of high quartz content granite silt around here. When you see dust on your lense....compressed air only.

I just say fk the scope and go to open sights.

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
PA, it is hard on everything. I had a little windblown silt on the lenses of a scope, and tried to wipe the dust off with a q-tip. I ruined the lenses.

It is some sort of high quartz content granite silt around here. When you see dust on your lense....compressed air only.

I just say fk the scope and go to open sights.



Always moisten the lens before wiping



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Dang that is definitely a dust bowl.
Understand regarding the factory loads / reloading. I think that the Bonded DGX is a good bullet.
I had started reloading for both the 375 & 416 Rugers when the factory ammo was hit or miss availability. And the shipping to Alaska from the boutique ammo companies ceased due to the obama administration’s bullshat. Anyways, I found the 270 grain and 350 grain TSX bullets grouped very well and have stuck with them. The 375 Ruger actually forced me back into reloading years ago.


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Idmay375,
With all the shelves bare of common ammo, theres gobs of the 400 dgx bonded stuff in our local Alaskan gunstores in both 416 Ruger and 416 rem mag. I doubt I'll reload for the ole 416, with easily available horsepower like that.

Too much wind blown river silt, tracking beaver pond muck into boat, rain and snow this season.

Pulled the scope right off the 416, in favor of those rugged open sights!

It was so bad, the bore brush would pull a dust cloud of glacial silt out of the barrel every two days of hunting.

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Idmay375,

I had one of those 375 Ruger's as well. I bought it when they first came out. I ended up keeping the 9.3x62 and sending the 375 down the road. To this day, I'd still choose the ole nine three over any 375.

But that dmn 416 Ruger, within 6 oz of Jack O'Connor's sheep hunting rifle........that is some retina detaching insanity. Thanks Ruger!

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The 9.3x62 is certainly a great round. My interest was also aligned with the 375 H&H until I got my first 375 Ruger.

The 416 Rigby always intrigued and tempted me, until the 416 Remington in a M70 came into production. The 416 Remington, I still like lots. The 416 Ruger has been the most carried for a few years. I really like the cartridge and the older Ruger Alaskan rifle, with a couple of aftermarket modifications. It is probably my most favorite rifle and cartridge for the 200 yard and under terrain.

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If the 400gr DGX in .416 is similar to the 480gr DGX in .458, then it's one tough bullet!

I fired the 480 from my former Ruger #1 in .45-70 LT (long throat) into very tough media of dry hard cover books and dry glossy magazines, plus two 2" planks, and it penetrated all 15.5" without expansion or deviation, hitting the granite ledge behind the setup and leaving a .458" imprint! The bullet was never found!

To put that in perspective: a SPEER 500gr African GS was fired at the approximated same MV from the same rifle, on the same occasion, and was defeated at 6" penetration having lost 190 grs weight at 310grs remaining! A 350 Hornady made 4" penetration and lost its core!

MV was only 1750 fps for the 500 SPEER GS to simulate impact at 100 yards, and 1780 fps for the 480 DGX. The media was at 5 yards from the muzzle. That rifle was capable of 2200 fps for each at MV. The 480 DGX was made for the 450 NE, but used in the Ruger #1 in .45-70 LT and now in my #1 Ruger in .458 as they don't need to be crimped into the cannelure. From my .458 I've attained 2353 fps/5900 ft-lbs from that 480gr DGX. But if I were to use it for hunting, I'd fire it at about 1800 fps as that will kill anything in Alaska this side of 200 yards, and most African DG as well. It's one of my favorites in .458.

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Ah, yes, the Hornady DGX-Bonded, 400-gr/.416 and 480-gr/.458-caliber.
Hornady, bless their hearts, finally made an excellent soft


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Getting above 2300 fps with a 400 grain projectile in a 20" .416 is very impressive. Might penetrate better than a 500 grain .450 at around 2150 fps. I'm thinking 9 1/2 pounds including scope would be about perfect for me if it were 416 Ruger. A Boyd's laminated classic style with cheekpiece weighs 45 oz, extended magazine to hold 4 rounds adds maybe 2 oz and perhaps an extra 40 thou" over the factory Ruger .416 barrel, at 22" should do it.

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Blows my mind that the 416 ruger didnt do better. Wondeful cartridge and package. Very handy in the 20" barrel. Mine shoots lights out with speer 350 grain mag tips. Very accurate. Does everything the 375 can do and more

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It is certainly one of my favorites. I know of 3ea of the stainless 20” that group very well with 350 grain TSX. Very handy rifles.

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Originally Posted by ldmay375
It is certainly one of my favorites. I know of 3ea of the stainless 20” that group very well with 350 grain TSX. Very handy rifles.

I have been able to pick up two boxes of the 350 TSX. Not much load data out the for the 416 Ruger, let alone using the 350 TSX. Care to share your loads or starting points?


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I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

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Originally Posted by ldmay375
I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

Was just going to post that. A good bit of info out there now on thd 416. Top velocities will be had with alliant 2000 mr pro. Lots of good powders from their down. Cfe 223 is good as well, reloader 17

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Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by ldmay375
I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

Was just going to post that. A good bit of info out there now on thd 416. Top velocities will be had with alliant 2000 mr pro. Lots of good powders from their down. Cfe 223 is good as well, reloader 17


I'm averaging 2630 FPS with 94 grains of CFE223 and 350 grains in 416 Remington



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by ldmay375
I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

Was just going to post that. A good bit of info out there now on thd 416. Top velocities will be had with alliant 2000 mr pro. Lots of good powders from their down. Cfe 223 is good as well, reloader 17


I'm averaging 2630 FPS with 94 grains of CFE223 and 350 grains in 416 Ruger


That load I can work with! PV has CFE223 in stock pretty frequently as of late. jwp475, would minus 10% be a safe start point for that load? 84.5 or so? Where did you find success with you bullet seating? Factory crimp or?


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Originally Posted by haverluk
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by ldmay375
I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

Was just going to post that. A good bit of info out there now on thd 416. Top velocities will be had with alliant 2000 mr pro. Lots of good powders from their down. Cfe 223 is good as well, reloader 17


I'm averaging 2630 FPS with 94 grains of CFE223 and 350 grains in 416 Ruger


That load I can work with! PV has CFE223 in stock pretty frequently as of late. jwp475, would minus 10% be a safe start point for that load? 84.5 or so? Where did you find success with you bullet seating? Factory crimp or?


Mine is a 416 Remington
I don't see why not.i worked up to 94 grains and settled on that load

Also.im using the Federal 215 primer



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by ldmay375
I sent you a PM.
Before the last Barnes buy-out, they were working on a new reloading manual. The 416 Ruger was to be included.
Swift Reloading Manual # 2 has the 416 Ruger, as well as the Speer, Hornady, and Nosler manuals.

Was just going to post that. A good bit of info out there now on thd 416. Top velocities will be had with alliant 2000 mr pro. Lots of good powders from their down. Cfe 223 is good as well, reloader 17


I'm averaging 2630 FPS with 94 grains of CFE223 and 350 grains in 416 Remington



Fantastic results! Always loved the 416 rem

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