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The only use I can see for a fixed 4x is for a kids scope so there isn't anything for them to fiddle with when things get a little boring for them.
I hunted with a fixed 4x a long time ago, once I got my first 1-4 variable you could never get me back into a fixed 4x. 1.5-6x40's make me smile also.
I have a very nice Weaver fixed 4.75x is anyone is interested.
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This is just a reprise of the fixed-6 story. If there was a market, that is a profitable, ongoing demand for these scopes, someone would step in and meet it. You can’t judge that demand by ebay sales or enthusiastic forum posts. Carrying deadwood in a product line increases overall costs, and you can’t expect a company to make stuff just because someone might want it someday.
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This is just a reprise of the fixed-6 story. If there was a market, that is a profitable, ongoing demand for these scopes, someone would step in and meet it. You can’t judge that demand by ebay sales or enthusiastic forum posts. Carrying deadwood in a product line increases overall costs, and you can’t expect a company to make stuff just because someone might want it someday. Right on.
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I have ordered binos and scopes directly from Karl Kaps in Germany.
The 4x is so popular it takes a few weeks to deliver, I have two 4x and they are great. Better than my 4 x 36 Kahles.
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I have ordered binos and scopes directly from Karl Kaps in Germany.
The 4x is so popular it takes a few weeks to deliver, I have two 4x and they are great. Better than my 4 x 36 Kahles. Are they easy to deal with for shipping? I don't see any dealers here in Canada.
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They are easy to order from, I've made three orders, and all were delivered by on time. The website will help you, I've signed by for a custormer #.
Christmas 2019 they had a special deal for their 8 x 42 Roof prism binos, $300.00 USD + about $75.00 shipping. I got two of them and I also own the Zeiss FL 7 x 42 and the Leica Ultra Vid HD 7 x 42 and the Kaps is a clear equal to my old eys. Color, clarity, object deal is close the the other Z + L at almost 2K each.
And I live on Oahu, Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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I have 3 of the Leupold fixed 4x's. A M8, FX, and and a long tube M8 on and old Husky '06. Light, mine have been durable, and really just nice scopes. The Weavers were nice too, wish I had bought more when they were closed out.
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i have a swift reliant 4x40 (south korea made with USA glass) on my .308 bolt gun. it has 4 inches of eye relief, is sharp edge to edge, view is flat and bright at sunset and sunup, and reticle is sharp. tracks perfectly. i'm one of those children at 70 years old who can't keep himself from piddling with variables. i like simple, and a 4x40 is dead simple, kind of like me ...
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I have ordered binos and scopes directly from Karl Kaps in Germany.
The 4x is so popular it takes a few weeks to deliver, I have two 4x and they are great. Better than my 4 x 36 Kahles. Are they easy to deal with for shipping? I don't see any dealers here in Canada. Optics Trade is a cinch to work with. Nothing but great experience from those folks.
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The only use I can see for a fixed 4x is for a kids scope so there isn't anything for them to fiddle with when things get a little boring for them.
I hunted with a fixed 4x a long time ago, once I got my first 1-4 variable you could never get me back into a fixed 4x. 1.5-6x40's make me smile also.
I have a very nice Weaver fixed 4.75x is anyone is interested. I’d be very interested in that Weaver 4.75
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The used market is your best bet. I have two M8-4X’s and have killed a ton of critters with them. For my needs and the ranges I typically shoot, they have worked wonderfully for years.
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I do like the, long tubed M8’s and even the shorter ones work fine for me.
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I do like the, long tubed M8’s and even the shorter ones work fine for me. That’s a nice rig! Be hard for me to pass that up at the LGS!
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I used a long tubed M8 on my 458. Works fine there. That rifle tore up a 1.5x5 for no good reason.
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Here's a M8 4x on my 300H&H.
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Good looking rifle SC.. that’s pretty classy looking.
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The only use I can see for a fixed 4x is for a kids scope so there isn't anything for them to fiddle with when things get a little boring for them.
I hunted with a fixed 4x a long time ago, once I got my first 1-4 variable you could never get me back into a fixed 4x. 1.5-6x40's make me smile also.
I have a very nice Weaver fixed 4.75x is anyone is interested. I’d be very interested in that Weaver 4.75 I have one, there Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation model, and it's awesome
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Good looking rifle SC.. that’s pretty classy looking. Thanks .... To me, it just wouldn't look right topped with a matte VX3 3.5-10 in Talley LWs.
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