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Of all the reviews I have watched, none really go into any detail about accuracy as in 100 yard accuracy. And I know, this is a pistol caliber and if you want something accurate get an AR-15, but was curious if anyone is shooting them at any real distance and how they perform.
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I had one for a while and liked it. Killed a couple of pigs with it. Ultimately sent it down the road as I wasn't impressed with 9mm terminal performance out of the 16" barrel. Other than a theoretical benefit of using the same mags as my primary handgun I didn't see any advantage over an AR.
That said, I used all sorts of Glock mags with it (all Glock OEM), including some 33 rounders, and never had a hiccup. Shot it out to 100 yards and it was accurate enough. I had a Leupold 2.5x20 Heavy Duplex scope on it.
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Why would anyone want a Politically Correct gun? Sounds kinda hinky to me. 😵
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Of all the reviews I have watched, none really go into any detail about accuracy as in 100 yard accuracy. And I know, this is a pistol caliber and if you want something accurate get an AR-15, but was curious if anyone is shooting them at any real distance and how they perform. The last two times I had mine at the range were to work on loads with Power Pistol in 0.2 grain increments up to 6.8 which is 0.1 grain above Hornady’s max. With the old Hornady truncated cone 115 hp 5 shot groups at just 50 yards were right at 1/2” low and were: .7 .55 .35 .5 The 115 Speer Gold Dots were at the same POI: .75 .75 .4 .75 So with both bullets 6.6 grs gave the best accuracy. I raised the scope a couple of clicks after those. The last time I had it out, 50 yard groups (5 shots) were: 1.05 for the Hornady and .75 high. The Gold Dots were 1.4” and .5” high Then at 100 yards the Hornadys were1.6” and 1/2” low, while the GD’s gave a vertical string of almost 4” about 2” low. All the loads that day were with a Power Pistol charge of 6.6 grs which is just below Hornady’s max of 6.7 grs in their #10 manual. No malfunctions.
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I wanted one in .40 when they brought them out. Buddy bought one and sent it back to Ruger twice because it wouldn’t feed from glock mags. Sample of one, but it was enough for me. Clunky as hell and ugly to boot. If it ran without fail I’d hold my nose and get one. But we all have different tastes!
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I wanted one in .40 when they brought them out. Buddy bought one and sent it back to Ruger twice because it wouldn’t feed from glock mags. Sample of one, but it was enough for me. Clunky as hell and ugly to boot. If it ran without fail I’d hold my nose and get one. But we all have different tastes! Interesting. A buddy shot my 9mm one and loved it, but is "invested" in .40 so he got one in .40 and it was great with Ruger mags but was a jam-o-matic with Glock mags as well. OEM 22,23 didn't matter.
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They also make a more conventionally designed model without the barrel shroud. That’s the one I have.
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I'm thinking about one too. Due to the glock conversion...was hoping glock would come out with a carbine but who knows when/if that would be.
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A 10mm version would get my money.
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After reading this thread and watching numerous online reviews...I got one today, the flag version.
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They also make a more conventionally designed model without the barrel shroud. That’s the one I have. Yep, that's what I picked up when they first came out. Bought it online for $399! I use the glock mags, and even got a 50-round drum for it. A drum up in the mag well, with 2-4 spare 33-rd glock mags, we talking fire-power!
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I prefer the HiPoint 45 JHP. Dont knock it until youve tried it. 4 inch groups offhand at 50 yds with a Vortex Sparc II optic.
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A 10mm version would get my money. The design would never allow it.
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I prefer the HiPoint 45 JHP. Dont knock it until youve tried it. 4 inch groups offhand at 50 yds with a Vortex Sparc II optic. Not crazy about a Hipoint, but vortex sparc II has been a dang good red dot for me.
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Yep, pretty smooth gun, smoother shooting than any AR9 platform other than the cmmg banshee. Only real downside is the mag release is not optimal for a speed reload. Shot in ppc a couple times, kids and wife find it super easy to run, like a 10-22 on steroids.
147 WFN at 1200fps is solid performance for a woods gun and does better on intermittent barriers and windshield glass than you would expect.
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Know two guys with them. Both of them love it. Both are using Ruger mags, being Glockless.
One decided to try a similar, cheaper, .45 and was sorely disappointed by it. Groups fell apart at 50.
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Shot mine yesterday for the first time. Loaded up 250 rounds in various glock magazines and mounted a romeo red dot after the first two magazines.
No issues at all. Wife and son and 10 year old future step-grandson hit steel and smiled.
It was fun.
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Didn't want to start a new thread but just picked one of these things up. I've been wanting a 9mm carbine and ran across that with an easy mod, I can use my smith m&p mags, which I have plenty of. A tad heavy, I have an eotech 512 thats been laying around in mind but I think it may be too much weight wise. Anyway, looks like it will be a fun little gun.
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A 10mm version would get my money. The design would never allow it. A 10mm version would get my money. The design would never allow it. Please explain. If any mfg could do it, I would assume it would be Ruger to beef up the action.
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