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Your local gunsmith should also be of help here. Farmer tight doesn’t cut it. I.E. ring marks on scopes. Virtually all mechanical objects have torque settings for various components. Cars, turbines, firearms…
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Your local gunsmith should also be of help here. Having only bedded a hundred+ rifles, I'll see if I can't get someone to point me in the right direction.
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Bedded hundreds of stocks and no knowledge of torque settings? Sounds like the blind leading the blind….
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Bedded hundreds of stocks and no knowledge of torque settings? Sounds like the blind leading the blind…. Oh.... I might have plenty of knowledge about "torque settings" in all sorts of applications. The point is that a correctly done, stress free pillar bedding job won't respond with accuracy and/ p.o.i. changes with changing the torque settings on the action screws. Again, if it does, the bedding isn't right. Period. How torquing the screws on non pillar bedded rifles rose to the top of the thread you started specifically about pillars...who knows? In my time not playing with rifles, I work at a private drag race engine dyno testing facility. We might torque fasteners. Here's an interesting one I just finished. For some reason, imgur doesn't like these pics so I'll drop a link to it. I know there's no "torque" settings to be found but hopefully it's of at least casual interest. https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/pillar-bedding-a-savage-99-project.4048079/ All the best with your current and future bedding projects. "Torque" on, brother. -Al
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Now you’re talking!!!! Beautiful work! We got off on the torque subject after some well meaning member misread what I had asked and proceeded so assail my reason for asking the question. I fully understand what you’re saying and as an accomplished technician your input is highly valued. That being said, I’ll continue my habit of torquing action, base and rings screws. It just makes good sense to me. It eliminates the variables and is a good habit to be in.
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As quality a job as your engines!!! Outstanding work…..
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There’s a certain beauty to quality workmanship….
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Semi-finished product: Finished product Putting the pancakes on the table
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Absolutely outstanding……..
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223 at 100 yards. Factory Remington laminated stock with pillars. Torqued to 60 inch pounds. 308 at 100 yards. After market laminated heavy stock. No pillars. Torqued at 40 inch pounds. Ok for a home hobbiest with limited tools and skills…. I’m absolutely envious of your skills…..
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Geeze Al, all of them shots on target and not a single wipeout. Lot of good that's gonna do at a score match... You do outstanding work!
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Nice looking varmint rifles
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That's some nice work Al...
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I'd like to see verifiable proof of pillar bedding being done "as early as the 50's"....and also action bedding blocks being designed for wooden stocks. I suppose I could get out the Mauser 98 that an area 'smith did in 1958. It's a Herters (maybe Reinhardt-Fajen) walnut stock of the era with a roll over cheek piece and wide, flat, varmint fore end. The action rests on a v-block inletted into the stock. Barrel is a heavy, blued, no taper barrel (not sure of make) that measures .930 at the muzzle. It's chambered and marked '244 Remington' which is what the 6MM Remington was called prior to being renamed in 1963.... lending further creedence to when it was done. An old gun by an area gunsmith that is not verifiable doesn't hold up as proof in court.
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Aluminum is the best pillar to use, it assists in accuracy as it prevents crushing of the stock and prevent stress cracks.
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Thanks. Leaning towards the high score adjustable pillars.although the steel pillars for the Mauser are adaptable to the Remington.
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When I first heard about pillars I started boring the action screw holes larger than before. Glass bedded the screws (with release in the screws). Then I bored the holes to free the screws. The result was a cylinder of glass bedding around the screws. I have not done that in a long time. I still wonder why that won’t work.
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