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I'll chime in for the M70 FWT. Hard to beat for a traditional new production rifle. (Some of you knew this eas coming 😂😇) I agree. The M70 FW or Sporter. They're fantastic for under $1,000. As much as I like the M70s, the Browning X-Bolt is maybe my favorite. I'm getting sub-MOA groups out of my .30-06 and .270 with run of the mill hunting ammo (Federal and Remington). They've got decent triggers, they're reliable, have strong ejection, and have that nice stock palm-swell on the bolt side. Great rifles. I don't own any [Howa-made] Vanguards anymore, but the ones I've had in the past were very good shooters, indeed. Howa makes good stuff.
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Tikka would be my choice as well.
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I didn’t realize they were importing stainless Howas again. Good to hear! Don’t lose your composure. One model, walnut, .308 or 6.5 YouKnowWhat. I want a SS Carbon Mini.
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A Tikka Lite SS costs $1800 in Scandinavia..
They are practically giving them away in the US...
The US in the last 40 years:
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Browning X Bolt. The one I own is consistently accurate with factory loads or hand loads. 3/4" MOA I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one.
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Browning X Bolt. The one I own is consistently accurate with factory loads or hand loads. 3/4" MOA I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one. Exactly, Quality components assembled correctly. Fit and finish better then anything under 1k or less then 2k.
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After shooting my brother's new Tikka I would have to say that is the one... and at 5.5 lbs without scope, I really appreciated it ... may have to look at one in a couple years... 5.5 lbs ??? Lightest one I can find is 5.94 lbs ? His is the T3X Superlight in a 30-06 and stainless. I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure he said it weighed in around 5.5 lbs without scope, rings, etc.... about 6.5 -7 lbs with his Vortex scope on it... and he said he paid just over $700 for it about a year ago.... Bob Thanks Bob. It's hard to know what a Tikka weighs, unless you actually weigh it. Be suspicious of any weight they list. The lightest rifle in their latest catalog is 2.7kg, or 5.94 lbs. But if you look at the Superlite in 30-06 they say it weighs 6.1 lbs. Below is a link to a page with the 30-06 Superlite specs. Hit Show More to find the 30-06. Tikka Superlite specs.You are probably right, and I'm sure he got his info off some literature or hearsay as neither one of us has a scale to weigh our rifles with- probably a good thing... In any case, a very impressive rifle for the money and a lot easier to carry than his 12 lb Winchester Classic 300 Mag... at least I think that is what it weighed... Bob
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Tikka
Would love to try out a Howa but I'm terminally left handed, so..........
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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Browning X Bolt. The one I own is consistently accurate with factory loads or hand loads. 3/4" MOA I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one. What model did you buy that was under a grand ????????????
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Sort through these pages. There are some for under 1k. Filter for Browning. https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/c/cat100003
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Where do people find all these Howa 1500s? Local stores? I never seem to find any in stock online.
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I didn’t realize they were importing stainless Howas again. Good to hear! Don’t lose your composure. One model, walnut, .308 or 6.5 YouKnowWhat. I want a SS Carbon Mini. A SS Carbon Mini or an SS Carbon 7-08 would melt my butter. My SS Howa, purchased new last year, was in a black synthetic stock. I saw a handful of the same in 30-06 around the same time, but haven’t seen any since. Gunbroker is the only place I ‘saw’ them.
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I didn’t realize they were importing stainless Howas again. Good to hear! Don’t lose your composure. One model, walnut, .308 or 6.5 YouKnowWhat. I want a SS Carbon Mini. A SS Carbon Mini or an SS Carbon 7-08 would melt my butter. My SS Howa, purchased new last year, was in a black synthetic stock. I saw a handful of the same in 30-06 around the same time, but haven’t seen any since. Gunbroker is the only place I ‘saw’ them. I would love to find a stainless in 243 or 6.5 or 708 that isn't marked up to insane prices.
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Tikka. I bought a superlite in 243 a few days ago, a couple M+ magazines, some Talley lightweights, and mounted a mechanically centered VX3i 3.5-10x40. I mounted it all up, loaded some 95gr NBTs at .5 under max and went to the range.
Removed the bolt and found the target in the bore, looked into the scope to find the crosshairs a couple inches high and left. Did a SWAG worth of clicks and the first round hit 1 inch high at 12 o’clock. Moved the target from 50 to 100 and fired 4 rounds into a quarter size group at about 1 1/2 high at 12. Fired one round at 200 and hit the center of the target. 6 rounds and I’m zeroed.
Got off the bench and the rifle points great and holds steadier than a rifle of that weight should. Never missed a single time on steel plates ranging from 4 to 6 inches seated using shooting sticks or prone off a pack.
That’s not extensive load workup or anything, but why would I need to put more effort and money into a rifle that already shoots well enough to hit any deer out to 400 yards?
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Browning X Bolt. The one I own is consistently accurate with factory loads or hand loads. 3/4" MOA I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one. What model did you buy that was under a grand ???????????? Bud's has them
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