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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.



I have a couple LAR (Grizzly) billet uppers that are fantastic

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Weird, I heard "ABC" meant Always buy Colt.. The reason behind that was because Colt appreciated very well, never really losing value.

Until they decided to put in that trigger block and use their proprietary pin size (Large pin Colt).

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Not mid 90's, but mid to latish [2007-2008] 2000's, bought one of the first 450 Bushmasters, it's been a rock solid chunker of Barnes HP's for near 15 years now, great rifle, accurate too.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?

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Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?

I had one too. It was excellent. I sold it because it had a left hand upper on it and someone else wanted it more than I did. It was just as good as any other AR I have, maybe better in some regards:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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IMO Bushmaster was always a quality product. I believe at one time they had some escapes on the BCG gas key screws not being staked. I have an early 2008 rifle and it’s been as good as the Colt.

Really don’t know about them since Remington acquired them.

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I have had 1 for 10-12 years and no problems , killed several critters with it, will be used next weekend maybe, grand sons last juvy hunt.

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Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?


The LAR guns were comparable to Colt in that they were building guns to specification of the contracts. Later (in the mid 2000s) I spent a good bit of time at places where we had many hundreds of Colt M4 series weapons (running overseas armories), Colt Defense was definitely a putting out a very solid product. The older civilian version Colt 6920 and 6720 and variants were very well built guns, when they were done in-house. I cannot comment on the current product as I have not inspected one, but my personally owned ones are quite solid.

I worked on a few hundred Bushmasters that were newer (early 2000's ) guns and they were not on par as compared to the older Bushy guns when built by LAR. The Windham guns I would not even bother with.

In the past I always recommended a Colt or FN brand AR. Both companies have been providing rifles/carbines for our Armed Forces (and others) for decades and both build an excellent product.


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My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.


Jeff you've never even owned a gun in your life

Jeff you've spent the past 4 years on here peddling your Trump Russian collusion lies. you've proven over and over again you're a low iq anti gun, anti hunting pathological liar and a drug addict

didn't you injure yourself opening a box of nobler bullets? prove me wrong

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This guy! ^^^ crazy Liar.

He’s just trying to get a reaction.

Ribka- unbunch your panties. I distilled it all down and put it right in my .sig for all to see. I ain’t hiding, and despite your best efforts, this is still America. I get an opinion.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.


Jeff you've never even owned a gun in your life

Jeff you've spent the past 4 years on here peddling your Trump Russian collusion lies. you've proven over and over again you're a low iq anti gun, anti hunting pathological liar and a drug addict

didn't you injure yourself opening a box of nobler bullets? prove me wrong

This isn't the Campfire forum.

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