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Identify these Fieldcraft bases #16524054 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Looks like a two piece pic or weaver. I can't seem to find them.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524126 10/13/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,613 Where The Birds Are S Switch Campfire Regular Switch Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,613 Where The Birds Are Don't know what the mount set up is, but it sure is ugly!

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524150 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Thanks for the help.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524174 10/13/21 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 I’m honestly not sure. I’ve not seen them before, but I’d like to know as well. Last edited by AKwolverine; 10/13/21.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524181 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota There's only so many options for a fieldcraft... when you rule out Talley lightweights you gotta make some sacrifices in the looks department.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524749 10/13/21 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,457 SE WI C chris84 Campfire Regular chris84 Campfire Regular C Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,457 SE WI Are you talking about the actual base or what looks to be a piece between the base & ring? Two piece base could be a chopped up one piece rail? Last edited by chris84; 10/13/21. Where all the white women at?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524755 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Just looking at the base. I suppose it's possible it's a chopped rail. Last edited by dakotakidd; 10/13/21.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases chris84 #16524794 10/13/21 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 Originally Posted by chris84 Are you talking about the actual base or what looks to be a piece between the base & ring? Two piece base could be a chopped up one piece rail? Wondered that. Or another two piece with hole spacing that was modified? I don’t recall two piece bases ever being offered (at least not that I was aware of.) I think you and I may have even discussed making some over pm.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524797 10/13/21 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 That is what I think it is

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524879 10/13/21 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 453 Washington S sigguy Campfire Member sigguy Campfire Member S Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 453 Washington Agreed - looks like a chopped Talley rail.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16524950 10/13/21 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge IMO, Talley rail, chopped. I have yet to find a two-piece Weaver for the Fieldcraft. They made a mistake by cutting it to eliminate the third screw in the front. Have a rail on mine now, with 1” and 30mm Talleys in reserve. The rail is a bit too high, so I may go back to the LWs. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525010 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota I have 30mm Talley at the moment. Kinda lost faith in them. Had a poi shift after a long ride in the pickup and some bumpy roads. Planning on a Talley rail and Ken Farrell rings. Should be almost as low. From top of receiver to bottom of scope tube. Talley 30mm low .40" Rail and rings .504"(I think...if I did my math right)

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525157 10/13/21 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge I used Warne Mountain Tech rings. Planning on transitioning to them on my other rifles from the Burris, which are a PITA to remove and replace. Last edited by Pappy348; 10/13/21. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525166 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota I like how the mountain tech look, wish they were lower. I'm pretty set on Ken Farrell or Apa lows.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525204 10/13/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California R robertham1 Campfire Regular robertham1 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California From what I remembered, I tried both leupold and tally rails with leupold PRW low rings and with that configuration I found myself wanting lower, so I had to switch to Talley LW’s. Dakota- report back with your findings with that rail and ring combo.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525216 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Will do. Ordered the talley rail. Just have to decide if I want to do the Farrell rings or find a used set of apa...out of stock everywhere. Dragging my feet on the Farrell...they're steel.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525227 10/13/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Talley 0 moa rail. Apa low rings. Not bad but not Talley lightweight low.. (pic off rokslide) Here's my fieldcraft and Montana in talley lw lows

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525724 10/14/21 Joined: May 2021 Posts: 3,511 Great State of Tennessee L LFC Campfire Tracker LFC Campfire Tracker L Joined: May 2021 Posts: 3,511 Great State of Tennessee Warne ?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16525869 10/14/21 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Originally Posted by dakotakidd I have 30mm Talley at the moment. Kinda lost faith in them. Had a poi shift after a long ride in the pickup and some bumpy roads. If you just bolt 'em on, you can very well have issues. Done correctly, the Talley's won't give any trouble.-Al Forbidden Zoner

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16526866 10/14/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California R robertham1 Campfire Regular robertham1 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California Al, Do you have a tutorial on how to correctly mount talleys? I recall seeing your method but couldn’t find the post. Thanks

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16529232 10/15/21 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 M MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 Looking in with amazement from outside of the BFC world, it seems an utter clusterfuuck. 1) Why exactly is there not a simple two piece cross-slot base option? Like the Burris Xtreme? Warne? And WTF was it not supplied by Barret? 2) Why, for the love of rifles, didn't Leupold offer their non-Picatinny height cross-slot rail in 0 moa? FFS this is silly. "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases MtnBoomer #16529452 10/15/21 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,704 West of the Blue Ridge Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Looking in with amazement from outside of the BFC world, it seems an utter clusterfuuck. 1) Why exactly is there not a simple two piece cross-slot base option? Like the Burris Xtreme? Warne? And WTF was it not supplied by Barret? 2) Why, for the love of rifles, didn't Leupold offer their non-Picatinny height cross-slot rail in 0 moa? FFS this is silly. Excellent questions, Boomie. Don’t have an excellent answer. Thought about cutting the Talley rail like Stick, but that still leaves it higher than ideal. Replacing the VX-5 in LWs with the Toric on a rail added at least half a pound. In the end, I might go with a 3-9 Trijicon in LWs, which should get me very close to 6lbs again. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Pappy348 #16529576 10/15/21 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 M MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 PM sent "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases chris84 #16529615 10/15/21 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,756 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,756 Originally Posted by chris84 Are you talking about the actual base or what looks to be a piece between the base & ring? Two piece base could be a chopped up one piece rail? The guy above made the best Fieldcraft rings ever! That AKwolverine guy absconded with a set of them....he's quick.... You can see chris84's work here: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../re-custom-fieldcraft-scope-mounts-rings Talking chris84 into making a LOW 0-MOA, stainless, two piece pic base would be really nice. Low like Burris, with 3 holes for the front. Could be something efficient to make if one long piece was used to make multiple sets and cut into separate bases afterwards. A team effort might be needed to make it worth his while....hint.....

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16529641 10/15/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota I remember seeing those for sale, before I had a fieldcraft. I'd be a buyer if they or a low pic/weaver rail was ever made.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases MtnBoomer #16529731 10/15/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,613 Where The Birds Are S Switch Campfire Regular Switch Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,613 Where The Birds Are Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Looking in with amazement from outside of the BFC world, it seems an utter clusterfuuck. 1) Why exactly is there not a simple two piece cross-slot base option? Like the Burris Xtreme? Warne? And WTF was it not supplied by Barret? 2) Why, for the love of rifles, didn't Leupold offer their non-Picatinny height cross-slot rail in 0 moa? FFS this is silly. I think it is because there are so few Fieldcraft rifles it is not worth the time or money to develop and market bases. I have the Talley LW's on mine but not in love with them.I'm going to ask Talley if they have their SS bases of the correct height in a blank so I can drill for the Fieldcraft. I have the Talley SS rings and bases on a few of my other rifles and think they are the nuts.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16529947 10/15/21 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base. Good shootin'. -Al Forbidden Zoner

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16530065 10/15/21 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,771 Western VA D Dude270 Campfire Tracker Dude270 Campfire Tracker D Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,771 Western VA I'm using Talley LWs because I don't like the other options If Chris makes a run of pic or weaver bases I'm in

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16530136 10/15/21 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,475 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,475 Calgary, AB, Canada If he offered more rings as shown above (especially if the front ring caught all three base screws), or low pic 1- or 2-piece base, I’m in as well.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Al_Nyhus #16538463 10/17/21 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 M MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Originally Posted by chris84 Are you talking about the actual base or what looks to be a piece between the base & ring? Two piece base could be a chopped up one piece rail? The guy above made the best Fieldcraft rings ever! That AKwolverine guy absconded with a set of them....he's quick.... You can see chris84's work here: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../re-custom-fieldcraft-scope-mounts-rings Talking chris84 into making a LOW 0-MOA, stainless, two piece pic base would be really nice. Low like Burris, with 3 holes for the front. Could be something efficient to make if one long piece was used to make multiple sets and cut into separate bases afterwards. A team effort might be needed to make it worth his while....hint..... Cool. Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base. Good shootin'. -Al So, that Weaver number #83 has the correct contour? Am supposing so, just seeking verification. "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16541097 10/18/21 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,457 SE WI C chris84 Campfire Regular chris84 Campfire Regular C Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,457 SE WI I still plan to make at least 10 sets of the TLW style rings - I already bought the material, but then we got busy & I wasn't able to get them in. Won't happen until after hunting season though. I'll think about doing the bases. Where all the white women at?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16541161 10/18/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California R robertham1 Campfire Regular robertham1 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California If you’re putting people on a list for the Talley style, I’d like to get on it Last edited by robertham1; 10/18/21.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16541188 10/18/21 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Same here...sign me up for 30mm Talley light weight style

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases MtnBoomer #16541289 10/18/21 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base.Good shootin'. -Al So, that Weaver number #83 has the correct contour? Am supposing so, just seeking verification. It's within a few thou. of the Fieldcraft receiver diameter. They'll need a dab of bedding to make them a perfect fit...but that should be done on bases as routine. -Al Forbidden Zoner

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases chris84 #16541704 10/19/21 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,393 Middle of the mitten Gypsy_Wind Campfire Regular Gypsy_Wind Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,393 Middle of the mitten I’d definitely like to be on the list for a set of the TLW-style rings. Originally Posted by chris84 I still plan to make at least 10 sets of the TLW style rings - I already bought the material, but then we got busy & I wasn't able to get them in. Won't happen until after hunting season though. I'll think about doing the bases. Fear the crabcat.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases robertham1 #16542601 10/19/21 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 Originally Posted by robertham1 If you’re putting people on a list for the Talley style, I’d like to get on it Sign me up as well Chris; for both if you end up doing bases too.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Al_Nyhus #16542708 10/19/21 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 M MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644 Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base.Good shootin'. -Al So, that Weaver number #83 has the correct contour? Am supposing so, just seeking verification. It's within a few thou. of the Fieldcraft receiver diameter. They'll need a dab of bedding to make them a perfect fit...but that should be done on bases as routine. -Al Cool. Thanks. A simple two - piece steel cross-slot set would be the solution here, just like everywhere else. Make them wide slots and rejoice. Good luck to all ya'll. "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases MtnBoomer #16542748 10/19/21 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,199 West Slope of Colorado A alpinecrick Campfire Ranger alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,199 West Slope of Colorado Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Cool. Thanks. A simple two - piece steel cross-slot set would be the solution here, just like everywhere else. Make them wide slots and rejoice. Good luck to all ya'll. That's the approach I take. Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16544587 10/19/21 Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,250 N Ndbowhunter Campfire Regular Ndbowhunter Campfire Regular N Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,250 half the reason i tripped my fc was the scope mount options either talley or chin weld basically

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Ndbowhunter #16544645 10/19/21 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California R robertham1 Campfire Regular robertham1 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,451 California I can understand that. For me, after trying a rail/ring combo and Talley mediums, I realized it’s Talley Lows or bust. I’d prefer a ring/rail, but they’re just too tall for me.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Switch #16544767 10/20/21 Joined: May 2021 Posts: 3,511 Great State of Tennessee L LFC Campfire Tracker LFC Campfire Tracker L Joined: May 2021 Posts: 3,511 Great State of Tennessee Originally Posted by Switch Don't know what the mount set up is, but it sure is ugly! Wanna see ugly check out the Warne Mountain Tech rings.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16545408 10/20/21 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 1,088 WA from PA M Model70Fan Campfire Regular Model70Fan Campfire Regular M Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 1,088 WA from PA What makes mountain techs ugly? American Rifles and Italian Shotguns

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Al_Nyhus #16556437 10/24/21 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base.Good shootin'. -Al So, that Weaver number #83 has the correct contour? Am supposing so, just seeking verification. It's within a few thou. of the Fieldcraft receiver diameter. They'll need a dab of bedding to make them a perfect fit...but that should be done on bases as routine. -Al Just got one in the mail today. Damn close. Thanks Al!

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases AKwolverine #16556868 10/24/21 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Al_Nyhus Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,413 Lower Dakota Territory Originally Posted by AKwolverine Just got one in the mail today. Damn close. Thanks Al! No problem. Will be bedding them to a pards Fieldcraft after he's done with it this season. Forbidden Zoner

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases Al_Nyhus #16557620 10/24/21 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus Originally Posted by AKwolverine Just got one in the mail today. Damn close. Thanks Al! No problem. Will be bedding them to a pards Fieldcraft after he's done with it this season. What rings is he planning? The weaver style limits currently available options a bit. I also need to source some replacement 8-40 mounting screws it appears. 😊

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases AKwolverine #16924377 02/04/22 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota Originally Posted by AKwolverine Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus Originally Posted by MtnBoomer Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus A pair of Weaver #83 bases could be easily modified to fit the Fieldcraft rifles if you're not hung up on using three screws for the front base.Good shootin'. -Al So, that Weaver number #83 has the correct contour? Am supposing so, just seeking verification. It's within a few thou. of the Fieldcraft receiver diameter. They'll need a dab of bedding to make them a perfect fit...but that should be done on bases as routine. -Al Just got one in the mail today. Damn close. Thanks Al! Ever get these put on your fieldcraft? I'm still waiting on aluminum Ken Farrell rings.

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16924737 02/04/22 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 Nope - still sitting on my bench!

Re: Identify these Fieldcraft bases dakotakidd #16924741 02/04/22 Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota D dakotakidd OP Campfire Regular OP dakotakidd Campfire Regular D Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 771 South Dakota I'm still waiting for aluminum Ken Farrell rings to be in stock..