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With more and more pressure coming down the pike regarding the use of lead-free bullets for hunting or outright ban on lead projects, do you think this would kill off the 22lr? Perhaps "kill off "is too strong a term, but I can see the lead-free bullet requirement impact the 22lr and other rimfires more negatively than the other cartridges. Your thoughts?

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Originally Posted by leomort
With more and more pressure coming down the pike regarding the use of lead-free bullets for hunting or outright ban on lead projects, do you think this would kill off the 22lr? Perhaps "kill off "is too strong a term, but I can see the lead-free bullet requirement impact the 22lr and other rimfires more negatively than the other cartridges. Your thoughts?


Not a chance - the number of 22 LR produced each year is in the billions, not to mention how many 22 rifles there are.

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Now, if the liberals get their way and succeed in outright banning all lead bullets/ammo and not just for hunting......which I think is their true agenda, then each of us to decide whether we want to become criminals by shooting our lead 22lr ammo. I'm sure the liberals will include hefty fines and jail time to give their new law some teeth.

While it's true that billions of 22lr rounds are produced each year that is lead bullets, that may not translate equally when force to move to lead free bullets. Just a thought to consider

Yes, the cost of lead free 22lr is going to cost more and from I've research this ammo general isn't very accurate and the range is reduced due to bullets lighter weight. But here's the question, are you willing to pay Lapua Midas + prices for ammo that shoots like [bleep]?


I don't know maybe these anti-gun liberals combined with this covid shortages got me feeling cynical. I need to speed some time in front of my reloading bench this week!

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Has anyone required lead free except the weirdos in California? I hope not. Besides we don't have any condors around here.


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Has anyone required lead free except the weirdos in California? I hope not. Besides we don't have any condors around here.


Yes. The Feds required lead free shot shells for Ducks & Goose hunting years ago.


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Why would they fuss with any of that when there litterally a hop, skip, and jump away from being able to take the guns away? Defund the police, drive them to quiting which is happening nationwide, crime is now thru the roof, create shortages nationwide, and lastly take away fuel and food and the perfect storm to achieve there agenda is in place. Not all but Most of these things I have mentioned have already happened on an alarming scale. Enjoy this forum fellas because it to is going to disappear in a very short period of time

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Has anyone required lead free except the weirdos in California? I hope not. Besides we don't have any condors around here.


Yes. The Feds required lead free shot shells for Ducks & Goose hunting years ago.


I was referring to rifle/pistol ammo.


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There was some research released earlier this year relating to eagles and lead in their blood levels. It’s only a matter of time until state agencies are sued into banning lead projectiles for hunting. Plenty of time to prepare for that outcome.

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Originally Posted by Trystan
Why would they fuss with any of that when there litterally a hop, skip, and jump away from being able to take the guns away? Defund the police, drive them to quiting which is happening nationwide, crime is now thru the roof, create shortages nationwide, and lastly take away fuel and food and the perfect storm to achieve there agenda is in place. Not all but Most of these things I have mentioned have already happened on an alarming scale. Enjoy this forum fellas because it to is going to disappear in a very short period of time



Why? Because according to various liberal reports there are around 300 million firearms already owned. Without a national database to register all those firearms it's going to be difficult, not to mention expensive and slow, for the liberals to go door to door to confiscate everyone's firearms.

If liberals can restrict or make it so difficult and/or expensive to acquire ammunition, your firearm is nothing but a heavy paper weight. Liberals have learned after decades of fail frontal assaults on 2nd amendment, that they need to diversify their attacks and try back door tactics.

But I agree with you regarding today's environment is very scary.

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Originally Posted by ccd
There was some research released earlier this year relating to eagles and lead in their blood levels. It’s only a matter of time until state agencies are sued into banning lead projectiles for hunting. Plenty of time to prepare for that outcome.


Yep. Only a matter of time.

Same thing that came about on steel shot only requirements for Ducks and Geese. Some researchers found one or two ducks or geese that supposedly died of lead poisoning from some lead supposedly ingested from a lake or stream. 😡

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So I can use lead weights for fishing that will fall into ponds but not shoot BBs that weight 1/100th as much. Typical retard government

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So I can use lead weights for fishing that will fall into ponds but not shoot BBs that weight 1/100th as much. Typical retard government


Can you still buy lead fishing weights ???

Haven’t bought in in years. I’ve got a life times supply.


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Yeah we still stock a lot of lead stuff. Haven't seen many that were otherwise

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Wal-Mart in Pa does not sell lead sinkers anymore


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Yeah, I forget when they started taking lead out of fishing terminal.

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The ammo makers have been spectacular at answering consumer demand with new and innovative products. The cartridge will remain available with lead free alternatives at commensurate cost.

The real threat is impending regulations for shooting ranges.

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I published an article in RIFLE magazine maybe 3 years ago about non-lead bullets. My research included shooting quite a few animals with CCI's .17 HMR, .22 Long Rifle and .22 Magnum ammo. All worked fine--and they aren't all that expensive. If lead-free regulations become more common, the price will go down, because they can make larger manufacturing runs.

With a few minor touch-ups due to other advances in non-lead bullets, also appeared as a chapter in THE BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK III.


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