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According to the author, 94% of Navy personnel have received the vaccine.

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BY ZACHARY STIEBER October 16, 2021

A new U.S. Navy order released this week says all active-duty Navy personnel who don’t get a COVID-19 vaccine by an upcoming deadline will be discharged—with possible financial repercussions as well.

The order applies to any sailor that is not fully vaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19 by Nov. 28 and has not received a religious or medical exemption or has an application for an exemption pending.

Fully vaccinated refers to getting two shots of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and two weeks or more having elapsed since the final shot.

COVID-19 is the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

The Nov. 28 deadline was already known, as is a Dec. 28 date for reserve personnel, but the new order (pdf) contained fresh details about what unvaccinated sailors face.

Any can be separated as soon as the deadline arrives without compliance, Vice Chief of Naval Operations Adm. William Lescher and Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Adm. John Nowell wrote in the joint order.

The discharge process will be overseen by the COVID Consolidated Disposition Authority, which includes Nowell.

In the weeks before the deadline arrives, commanders were told not to let any sailors refusing a COVID-19 vaccine get promoted, reenlist, or execute orders, with the exception of separation orders.

Additionally, the sailors can be temporarily reassigned, regardless of whether they’ve received or are seeking an exemption.

Officers and enlisted members serving in leadership roles who have not gotten a shot were informed in writing they had five days to initiate a vaccination series or request an exemption. If they do neither, they’ll be relieved and have what’s known as detachment for cause, or “administrative removal of a member from a current duty for unsatisfactory performance of duty or misconduct.”

Any Navy personnel separated because of vaccine refusal will get a general discharge under honorable conditions or a higher level of discharge. Depending on the level, they could lose some veterans’ benefits.

That’s not all they could lose.

Officers may be subject to “recoupment of unearned special or incentive pays” in select cases. The COVID authority “may seek recoupment of applicable bonuses, special and incentive pays, and the cost of training and education for service members refusing the vaccine” from sailors, the order also says.

Unvaccinated personnel could also face a court-martial.

The order drew criticism from several lawyers who are representing military personnel who are seeking religious or medical exemptions.

“This is nothing more than pure vindictiveness. There’s no legitimate reason to threaten our brave service members with court-martial or involuntary separation. And now the Navy is threatening to hurt them financially?!? You might expect a country like China or North Korea to force its people to choose between faith and country. But this is America. What the Navy is doing goes against the very fabric of our nation,” Mike Berry, general counsel for the First Liberty Institute, told The Epoch Times in an email.

R. Davis Younts, another attorney, said the order is “deeply concerning” and “appears to be targeting military members based on their faith.”

“My clients are being threatened with this simply for exercising their legal and constitutional right to submit a religious accommodation request. It appears as if the Navy may be signaling a plan to deny all religious accommodation requests without any consideration of individual cases, medical concerns, or natural immunity,” he added. “My clients fear political motivations are the priority and the law and military readiness are being ignored. My clients believe it is as important as ever to stand strong against this mandate and continue to exercise all of their legal rights despite any threats they receive.”

The COVID-19 vaccine mandate, outlined by Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro, was announced on Aug. 30, five days after Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered branch heads to develop mandates.

A Navy spokeswoman declined to comment this week when asked if any religious or medical exemptions have been approved.

As of Oct. 13, over 98 percent of active-duty Navy personnel are fully vaccinated or will be before the deadline arrives. Ninety-four percent of the total force have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.


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Interesting, by you probably intended this for the main discussion forum.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Interesting, by you probably intended this for the main discussion forum.


Agree, though it may be wrong in so many ways the military under the UCMJ and case law can do whatever they want including restrictions on the 1st Amendment

Chief Justice Earl Warren once suggested that military personnel do not give up their constitutional rights—“our citizens in uniform may not be stripped of basic rights simply because they have doffed their civilian clothes” (Warren 1962:187)—but he did note that under the doctrine of military necessity, also known as the “Orloff Rule” from Orloff v. Willoughby (1953), the military can implement its regulations largely outside the purview of judicial review, because the Court’s attitude had historically been “hands off

In other words tough sh*t.



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We need a leader that can organize a movement.
United we stand...

KWFA says his company will sacrifice 15% of the workforce.
When they can't hire to fill current openings?

It's a bluff. Word gets around, People cave. Other leave. One by one.
By crunch time? Only a few are left to fire.

Free Americans should all take the first Tuesday, following a Monday, in November off work. Vote. Then go home. Do not spend a nickel that day.
Buy your [bleep] ahead of time.

Then, it needs to be understood that December will indeed be a
"Dark Winter". Cause, "Shït ain't gonna be happening".

I know, money will be lost.
The financially stupid will be hurt.
But we are going to pay.
Pay now, under our terms.
Or pay later, under theirs!


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Any chance we can keep the political talk on the Campfire forum?

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