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I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

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I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907


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And no, I don’t believe the government’s response in relation to public health is going well in Canada or the US. Mass populations have handed up their rights without resignation in order to escape a virus who’s effect will never actually be known because the data collected is beyond tainted.

Our need to be good citizens includes critical thinking, claiming ignorance because you “ just trust those experts” is intellectually lazy and reckless. And as I said before, embarrassing.


I do not believe trusting credentialed individuals is "intellectually lazy and reckless". Canadians are paying attention, asking questions and we are making our own decisions. It appears that you expect us to react the same way here as in the US. We have a different business model, I suppose.

* https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/



They took away your freedom for work, worship and travel. And are currently working to make it as difficult as possible to choose what you deem appropriate in regards to your health. And you say blind trust in people with certain letters in front of their name is appropriate? It’s not, it’s lazy and it’s reckless. I’ve known many Canadians and none of them have that “ business model”.


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I wash my hands of this and feel an intense desire to do so.
Something is off.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

Edited to add:

I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907

That’s all fine and well, but the part I was focused on is the overly-strong factual claims rather than saying “we don’t know for sure yet”.

At 47 seconds in the video you posted: “putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously”.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

Edited to add:

I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907


Are these actual n 95 masks or cheap ineffective non medical Chinese face diapers?

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I suspect that you do not trust any organization's statistics, but a higher percentage of Americans are dying of COVID than are dying here*. 743,000 deaths in a population of 333 million vs 28,000 in a population of 38 million. After 18 months, it suggests that we may be handling it better. I doubt that the Canadian reaction will reach the level of anger seen in the US.

Just a wild ass uneducated guess here but the US with near 10 times higher population density on a smaller land mass would mean much more elbow rubbing contact among people. Would that not translate to a much higher occurrence of virus transmission and rapid spread.

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I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

Edited to add:

I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907

That’s all fine and well, but the part I was focused on is the overly-strong factual claims rather than saying “we don’t know for sure yet”.

At 47 seconds in the video you posted: “putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously”.


That's what they thought at the time. It's impossible for me to say.

There have been times when what science thought was incontrovertible proved not to be so. The earth is flat. There were sea monsters that swallowed ships, etc. While what Tam said wasn't right, she did correct herself. I put this down to being accepting of change and modifying the message based on new information.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
That's what they thought at the time. It's impossible for me to say.

There have been times when what science thought was incontrovertible proved not to be so. The earth is flat. There were sea monsters that swallowed ships, etc. While what Tam said wasn't right, she did correct herself. I put this down to being accepting of change and modifying the message based on new information.
Might be a good idea to wait until the "science" has gotten through "evolving" and changing and modifying before rushing off into some ill considered medical concoction. Grave yards have a substantial number of medical oops in them. Those of us that didn't spend our lives saying ''yes sir captain'' aren't as prone to accept government edicts.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

Edited to add:

I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907

That’s all fine and well, but the part I was focused on is the overly-strong factual claims rather than saying “we don’t know for sure yet”.

At 47 seconds in the video you posted: “putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously”.


That's what they thought at the time. It's impossible for me to say.

There have been times when what science thought was incontrovertible proved not to be so. The earth is flat. There were sea monsters that swallowed ships, etc. While what Tam said wasn't right, she did correct herself. I put this down to being accepting of change and modifying the message based on new information.

As a physicist, I am a member of the scientific community, and interact with other scientists on a daily basis. I'll say it again, one of the characteristics of every great scientist that I've ever met is that they are objective seekers of truth, and are hesitant to make a strong claim unless it's based on overwhelming evidence. Being in the public spotlight, as Tam is, subjects a person's statements to a higher-than-normal level of healthy scrutiny, and should make a person even more cautious about the claims that they make and upon which policy decisions are based.

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Perhaps she should be, given that she’s with the government.

I wouldn’t call her a scientist. According to her bio, she’s a paediatric infectious disease specialist with expertise in immunization, emergency preparedness and global health security.


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Perhaps she should be, given that she’s with the government.
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Being with the gov't is a strike against credibility all by itself. Being appointed by Trudeau is another strike. We all know how people climb the ranks of gov't and it has little to do with honesty or being capable in their field. The willingness to forsake conscience, rather preferring to tow gov't and party agendas is prerequisite to climbing the gov't ladder. She is just another political appointee.

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Perhaps she should be, given that she’s with the government.
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Being with the gov't is a strike against credibility all by itself. Being appointed by Trudeau is another strike. We all know how people climb the ranks of gov't and it has little to do with honesty or being capable in their field. The willingness to forsake conscience, rather preferring to tow gov't and party agendas is prerequisite to climbing the gov't ladder. She is just another political appointee.


She was caught in another lie. Lie after lie after lie. Govt officials, ultra wealthy caught again. and again and again not masking, traveling, not social distancing etc ; but the flat earth government science is settled and the dumb sheep ( Steve) keep believing lies begging for someone else to think for them, control them.

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Alberta Health and CTV are reporting the number of deaths in Alberta attributed to COVID has now surpassed 3000. Link and graphs at link below.

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The province now has 10,842 active cases and a seven-day daily average of 786 infections, as both figures continue their declines over the past week. Among all Albertans, 73.4 per cent have received one dose of vaccine and 66.2 per cent have received two or more shots.

Unvaccinated Albertans remain significantly more likely to suffer a severe outcome after contracting COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.

The next data update is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta...s-adds-786-new-cases-wednesday-1.5631334

An Albertan reconciles happy memories with her unvaccinated father's death
'I did feel like I got hit in the stomach,' says Trudy Ballard
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excerpt from the story -

You hear these stories and I read his [obituary], which was so beautifully done; that he cared so deeply, that he was so community-minded and so well-read. And yet, he refused to be vaccinated. Why do you think that was?

We have a lot of thoughts on that and a lot of confusion, to be honest. It is quite heartbreaking for my brother and I.

Even though he's so well-read, I think he heard so many things on some media channels that were just not accurate, and he took those on — which was really surprising to us.

There's so much misinformation out there. Please try to find the real information and make the right choices. - Trudy Ballard

Did you try to change his mind?

I wrote to my dad and I asked him, "Would you for my sake — for your great-grandkids' sake and the sake of your grandkids — would you consider doing this?" And I listed a few things, and I pretty much pleaded with him.

He told me he loved me and that he respected me asking him this. But no, he would not change his mind.

Full story here - https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/mourn...er-unvaccinated-father-s-death-1.6212576


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lol. what an ignorant clown. Trudeau loves c cowardly clowns like you.

Its obvious you're a very weak man , never accomplished anything of value in your life and never had to face any adversity in your life.


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Alberta Health and CTV are reporting the number of deaths in Alberta attributed to COVID has now surpassed 3000. Link and graphs at link below.

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The province now has 10,842 active cases and a seven-day daily average of 786 infections, as both figures continue their declines over the past week. Among all Albertans, 73.4 per cent have received one dose of vaccine and 66.2 per cent have received two or more shots.

Unvaccinated Albertans remain significantly more likely to suffer a severe outcome after contracting COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.

The next data update is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta...s-adds-786-new-cases-wednesday-1.5631334

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When you are losing an argument, resorting to person attack is the last ditch defense.


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Numbers are skewed because they include deaths which occurred before there were any vaccines and during the time when long term care facilities were being hit particularly hard (largely due to infection brought in by staff and visitors). People continue to get sick and, in some cases, to die, because very little effort has been made to find effective treatments. Instead, the establishment has gone all in on the vaccines. These vaccines are turning out to be about as efficacious as normal saline and one can only hope they are as harmless. During the first year, most victims were people who were likely to have not lived out the year anyway and, in many, if not most cases, covid was not the actual cause of death. Alberta numbers are especially suspect after Deana Henshaw, their chief doctor, admitted to misreporting covid deaths. This happened after she was caught bleating on about the 14 year old boy who died of covid but who actually died of brain cancer, according to his sister. Henshaw apologized for lying and said they are not going to lie as blatantly going forward. Or, at least, doing a better job of it. The supporters of the government narrative were satisfied with this and gave her a pass. GD

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Have a listen....
A new study done with 65 different countries involved, and lots of Counties in the USA .
All about the vaccines, and if they are working as planned

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What an absolute load of crap. I have good friends and relatives on the front lines in Alberta right now. The MSM is lying as per usual. The truth is out there, you just have to have an IQ higher than 5 to sort it out.

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When you are losing an argument, resorting to person attack is the last ditch defense.


We have a number of posters in the Canada section and elsewhere who do this constantly. They are incapable of participating in a meaningful discussion. As a result, they toss out insults. It is an attention getter and a mark of immaturity.

Some posters have more than one identity here. Because few people pay attention to them, they are compelled to create other identities.

WRT Alberta, or any other jurisdiction, I trust the doctors and scientists there, not the conspiracy theorists and other unqualified individuals who think that the government or the medical community is out to kill everyone.

To those who believe that Alberta Health is lying, I suggest that you contact them directly and call them on their "incorrect information". You can report back here and post their response. I am sure that everyone would like to hear what they say.
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I am hopeful that Alberta is on the mend. My SIL is waiting for surgery and COVID has caused delays.

Alberta reports 770 COVID-19 cases, gradual return of surgeries and procedures begins
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EDMONTON - Alberta reported 770 new cases of COVID-19 Thursday as pressure on the health care system starts to ease.

According to Alberta Health, the provincial positivity rate is approximately 6.5 per cent, after about 11,800 tests were completed. There are currently 10,434 active cases of COVID-19.

There 912 Albertans in hospital receiving treatment for COVID-19, including 201 in ICUs.

“We continue to see these numbers declining, but it's important to remember that this takes time and this trend could reverse quickly if we are not careful,” said Dr. Deena Hinshaw.

Across the province there are active alerts or outbreaks at 288 schools. Hinshaw said that at four of those schools, there were more than 10 cases of COVID-19 reported after individuals with COVID-19 while infectious attended.

Eight more deaths were reported Thursday, raising the provincial total to 3,014. The deaths ranged in age from people in their 30s to over 80.

More than 6.4 million vaccine doses have been administered as of Wednesday.

The rest here - https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-covid-19-update-on-thursday-afternoon-1.5632689


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