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Trucking is expensive, and will stay expensive as long as drivers are required. When you add it all up, the cost of the driver on a semi-truck is well over $1.00 / mile. About $0.85 in direct labor costs (wages, taxes, medical insurance, other benefits), about $0.20 in HR overhead (supervisors, recruiting, compliance etc).

Then there's the Indirect costs of building and maintaining the truck to accomodate the driver (sleeper, AC / Heat, APU, windshields, etc, etc). A truck could be built approximately 40% or so cheaper if it didn't have to have driver accomodations, roll over standards, etc. Then, at some point, the driver less truck will be safer, reducing insurance costs.

Next, capital utilization will be much higher when drivers aren't needed. Drivers can drive no more than about 60 hours a week. A driverless truck can run two and a half times that, and doesn't need a weekend off.

Finally, because of the continuous operating nature of a driver less truck, it can run slower, reducing operating costs by cutting fuel costs by almost half as well as maintenance costs and adding equipment longevity.

Today, trucking can't even begin to compete with rail on cost. It competes on flexibility, reliability and speed of delivery. Putting a big mexican port in will not be economically viable until trucks don't need drivers anymore.

No and I stated I could not comment on whats going there.

Send the cargo ships to FL. DeSantis will figure it out and create more jobs over it.

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But you did comment on it.

your union shop steward won't give your permission?

Did you read my comment I work into and out of a Rail yard in Chicago do you really think I have a (Shop Stewart) that has jurisdiction over a port in Los Angeles. The point I was trying to make is people’s should actually try researching some of [bleep] before reposting it and commenting on it as fact based,
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A group of us fish farmers buys a container worth of supplies out of Taiwan, once or twice a year. We just got a container delivered last week. The driver waited four hours to get loaded at the Port of Long Beach.

Do you have Drayage / clean truck requirements at your rail yard? Are you subject to AB5 rules?

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Trucking is expensive, and will stay expensive as long as drivers are required. When you add it all up, the cost of the driver on a semi-truck is well over $1.00 / mile. About $0.85 in direct labor costs (wages, taxes, medical insurance, other benefits), about $0.20 in HR overhead (supervisors, recruiting, compliance etc).

Then there's the Indirect costs of building and maintaining the truck to accomodate the driver (sleeper, AC / Heat, APU, windshields, etc, etc). A truck could be built approximately 40% or so cheaper if it didn't have to have driver accomodations, roll over standards, etc. Then, at some point, the driver less truck will be safer, reducing insurance costs.

Next, capital utilization will be much higher when drivers aren't needed. Drivers can drive no more than about 60 hours a week. A driverless truck can run two and a half times that, and doesn't need a weekend off.

Finally, because of the continuous operating nature of a driver less truck, it can run slower, reducing operating costs by cutting fuel costs by almost half as well as maintenance costs and adding equipment longevity.

Today, trucking can't even begin to compete with rail on cost. It competes on flexibility, reliability and speed of delivery. Putting a big mexican port in will not be economically viable until trucks don't need drivers anymore.
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You have an incredible head up @ss problem. See a shrink to see if your brain is functioning. I see you would rather these truck bots make millions for some rich jackass and put millions of people out of jobs. The short shortsightedness of your "idea" is that once you replace everyone with robots who will have a job and pay for said products being shipped? On another issue who would be at fault when one of your truck bots kills someone? And by the way dumbass what mode of transportation do you "think" (ha ha) moves materials from train terminals to final destinations? Trucking and Trains actually work together not against each other. You are a blithering idiot.

[bleep] you and the AB5 rules your stupid fuQ. Those rules are part of the problem. Maybe the biggest part of the problem.

How many illegal aliens do you have in your brain dead union?

Unions help the working and middle class. lol

Can someone help me find some logic, any logic, in Ricky's responses? I'm not quite sure where the arguments start and end?

That logic is your head is so far up your @ss Obamacare will not pay to have it removed. Or possibly your IQ is so low there is no reason to remove it, dumbass.

AB5 set off a "Triggered" response. LOL

I highly doubt it’s the unions at the port causing this. Getting union workers to work is easy, throw money at them. Since I don’t think there are any kind of union demands being made right now I’m much more inclined to believe the multiple reports of California’s anti trucking laws being the crux of the problem.

I have never, ever, not even once, seen any union actually contribute to more productivity or output.
Unions have always been & always will be about more pay & more members for less work.

Show me some examples of being wrong.

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I had not heard of AB5 but I looked into and I can see where some people may definitely not like AB5. Personally it sounds to me like a government overreach. I'm not sure what AB5 has to do with the port stoppages though. Can someone fill me in?

I think the article described much more than not working enough hours, though that was part of it. I think the core issue he seemed to describe was a balance of power problem between employees and managers and customers.

Robots are coming to the logistics industry. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but it is coming. If not in LA then in competitors somewhere. Logistics is a global industry by definition.

From what I glanced over in one of the links provided in one of the posts AB5 states if a company pays an independent contractor by 1099 , the independent has to meet the criteria of a legit business. The Government would rather the company withhold the taxes and pay their matching contribution rather than chase after these independents for the taxes owed.