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If a deer is hit in the lungs, 1 lung, 2, or just a nick, can/could it blow or snort at you? Asking for a friend lol. I've never seen it but had a hunting partner say he shot one behind the shoulder (arrow) and it jumped up and blew. ???
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My dad shot one once that never knew it was hit. Kept its head down still eating. Guess the broadhead cleared the ribs just right. He went to nock another arrow and finally the thing fell over.
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Maybe, might take a short amount of time to fill the lungs up with blood. I had a doe resume feeding after a double lung shot at 12 yards once.
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What about the animal being shot through the rib cage during the respiratory pause, after exhalation? It is possible to go through the chest cavity at this moment an not hit a thing, imo! Something else I wonder about, a double lung shot with inflated or deflated lungs, which does the most damage? My thinking is when the lungs are at their smallest volume of air , again during respiratory pause after exhalation. I am thinking with an arrow or a bullet, a certain percentage of shots can appear to be kill shots , but hit nothing but hide and ribs!
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I've seen all kinds of crazy schit. Anything is possible.
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Possible, possibly, but very unlikely.
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My dad shot one once that never knew it was hit. Kept its head down still eating. Guess the broadhead cleared the ribs just right. He went to nock another arrow and finally the thing fell over. Personally saw that exact thing happen. As far as snorting after being shot, if the guy said it happened, guess it happened. Seen a lot of weird stuff hunting.
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If they can run 50 yards, I' sure they can snort a few times. It depends on where they're hit and by what. It takes a little time for the lungs to fill up.
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Unless any of us were there how do we know the trajectory or spatial intersect of the impact?
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Yes I have shot deer with bow and they didn't know they were hit. Even double lung 50-60 yards running or walking before they die. If they are rutting deer are especially tough like a combination pain killer steroid effect. Hit right their just as dead just don't know it.
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What about the animal being shot through the rib cage during the respiratory pause, after exhalation? It is possible to go through the chest cavity at this moment an not hit a thing, imo! Something else I wonder about, a double lung shot with inflated or deflated lungs, which does the most damage? My thinking is when the lungs are at their smallest volume of air , again during respiratory pause after exhalation. I am thinking with an arrow or a bullet, a certain percentage of shots can appear to be kill shots , but hit nothing but hide and ribs! There’s no empty space inside the body cavity except that INSIDE the lungs. That’s why the diaphragm works the way it does. The diaphragm moves down, sucking air into the lungs.
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Deer can see blue, so be careful for that.
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What about the animal being shot through the rib cage during the respiratory pause, after exhalation? It is possible to go through the chest cavity at this moment an not hit a thing, imo! Something else I wonder about, a double lung shot with inflated or deflated lungs, which does the most damage? My thinking is when the lungs are at their smallest volume of air , again during respiratory pause after exhalation. I am thinking with an arrow or a bullet, a certain percentage of shots can appear to be kill shots , but hit nothing but hide and ribs! If the chest cavity is penetrated at all, it’s gonna cause a pneumothorax (or double) or hemothorax (or double) at the very minimum.
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Not only that Antlers it could get air in there or fill up with blood. Just given ya à bad time. Need it after getting à little riled on another post. Your posts are spot on based on intelligent informed opinion.
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First deer i GOT with a bow when i was in HS i shot almost straight down through as it ate acorns under the branch i stood on. It bounced off about 10 yards and started feeding again. I couldnt see an arrow in it or on the ground.
Like the twilight zone.
It was behind me through brush and after a while with me trying to figure out WTH was going on, it lay down and soon died.
When i climbed down, the arrow was stuck in the forest duff and straight up.
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First deer i GOT with a bow when i was in HS i shot almost straight down through as it ate acorns under the branch i stood on. It bounced off about 10 yards and started feeding again. I couldnt see an arrow in it or on the ground.
Like the twilight zone.
It was behind me through brush and after a while with me trying to figure out WTH was going on, it lay down and soon died.
When i climbed down, the arrow was stuck in the forest duff and straight up.
I started using white knocks on the Micro Flight fiberglass arrows. I've had more than a few not know they wuz daid BC ( before carbon) I put blue nocks and vanes on my arrows. The stood out really well to my eyes when everything where I hunted was brown and green and gray
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What about the animal being shot through the rib cage during the respiratory pause, after exhalation? It is possible to go through the chest cavity at this moment an not hit a thing, imo! Something else I wonder about, a double lung shot with inflated or deflated lungs, which does the most damage? My thinking is when the lungs are at their smallest volume of air , again during respiratory pause after exhalation. I am thinking with an arrow or a bullet, a certain percentage of shots can appear to be kill shots , but hit nothing but hide and ribs! There’s no empty space inside the body cavity except that INSIDE the lungs. That’s why the diaphragm works the way it does. The diaphragm moves down, sucking air into the lungs. In my way of thinking there is some space in there between the collapsed lungs (squeezed up by diaphragm) and the mesentery holding the other organs in place, granted the space is smaller than with lungs inflated but there has got to be some room there for an arrow or bullet to penetrate without hitting any vitals!
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What about the animal being shot through the rib cage during the respiratory pause, after exhalation? It is possible to go through the chest cavity at this moment an not hit a thing, imo! Something else I wonder about, a double lung shot with inflated or deflated lungs, which does the most damage? My thinking is when the lungs are at their smallest volume of air , again during respiratory pause after exhalation. I am thinking with an arrow or a bullet, a certain percentage of shots can appear to be kill shots , but hit nothing but hide and ribs! If the chest cavity is penetrated at all, it’s gonna cause a pneumothorax (or double) or hemothorax (or double) at the very minimum. I am aware of the pneumothorax issue and that is inevitable with chest cavity penetration, but it would take the animal much longer to perish, especially if the diaphragm and lungs have not been compromised!
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