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Older Accurate powder Data #16545252 10/20/21
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I need some loading data for Accurate 3100 and 2700. I have a couple of pounds of both. Does anyone have some older accurate loading data available?

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I have a 2005 Reloader's Guide. May have an older one. What do you want to know?


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Caliber would help. I have the last pdf of their data. 3100 was discontinued many years ago 2700 hasn’t been yet.

Update this link has AA 3100

https://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/accurate_load_data_3.5.pdf

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Originally Posted by Swifty52
Caliber would help. I have the last pdf of their data. 3100 was discontinued many years ago 2700 hasn’t been yet.

Exactly, I haven't seen or used AA3100 for 10 years at least. Worked pretty good in 338wm rifles though. Seemed comparable to RL19. OP is probably wanting old data, because he knows 3100 was discontinued.


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Thinking about using 3100 in 264 Win Mag with 140 gr bullets. Yes I know it is discontinued. If I am remembering right 3100 is pretty close to IMR 4831.

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Originally Posted by riflegunbuilder
Thinking about using 3100 in 264 Win Mag with 140 gr bullets. Yes I know it is discontinued. If I am remembering right 3100 is pretty close to IMR 4831.


I believe 2700 is the same as H414/W760 as well.


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Caliber would help. I have the last pdf of their data. 3100 was discontinued many years ago 2700 hasn’t been yet.

Exactly, I haven't seen or used AA3100 for 10 years at least. Worked pretty good in 338wm rifles though. Seemed comparable to RL19. OP is probably wanting old data, because he knows 3100 was discontinued.


Yes I know, that link is to AA data version 3.5. Very old. Looked through all my AA manuals never did they recommend 3100 for 264 Win mag. Closest is Sierra using 120 54-59 grains, in 140 it’s Magpro or 8700. 3100 is 4-5 steps faster than 4831, closest is RL19 which is right next door.



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Caliber would help. I have the last pdf of their data. 3100 was discontinued many years ago 2700 hasn’t been yet.

Exactly, I haven't seen or used AA3100 for 10 years at least. Worked pretty good in 338wm rifles though. Seemed comparable to RL19. OP is probably wanting old data, because he knows 3100 was discontinued.


Yes I know, that link is to AA data version 3.5. Very old. Looked through all my AA manuals never did they recommend 3100 for 264 Win mag. Closest is Sierra using 120 54-59 grains, in 140 it’s Magpro or 8700. 3100 is 4-5 steps faster than 4831, closest is RL19 which is right next door.

Pretty much what I said, but more information for the op is a good thing. I was just going off the top of my head from when I was loading a lot of different things in my 338wm. Back in the late 90's and early 2000's. I used 3100 and RL19 for a spell with lighter bullets (up to 225gr). I actually preferred AA3100 over RL19 back in the day. It was a great powder and I was disappointed when they discontinued it. Since Mr. beretzs commented on the subject, I'm sure he's ran truckloads of 3100 in his 338wm as well. If not, I'd be surprised, he missed out. As for loading it in the 264wm, I'd not try it unless I had some good data suggesting it works well. That's where I'd start pulling out all of my old load manuals and doing some homework... Speer, sierra and Nosler usually listed loads with AA powder.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Caliber would help. I have the last pdf of their data. 3100 was discontinued many years ago 2700 hasn’t been yet.

Exactly, I haven't seen or used AA3100 for 10 years at least. Worked pretty good in 338wm rifles though. Seemed comparable to RL19. OP is probably wanting old data, because he knows 3100 was discontinued.


Yes I know, that link is to AA data version 3.5. Very old. Looked through all my AA manuals never did they recommend 3100 for 264 Win mag. Closest is Sierra using 120 54-59 grains, in 140 it’s Magpro or 8700. 3100 is 4-5 steps faster than 4831, closest is RL19 which is right next door.

Pretty much what I said, but more information for the op is a good thing. I was just going off the top of my head from when I was loading a lot of different things in my 338wm. Back in the late 90's and early 2000's. I used 3100 and RL19 for a spell with lighter bullets (up to 225gr). I actually preferred AA3100 over RL19 back in the day. It was a great powder and I was disappointed when they discontinued it. Since Mr. beretzs commented on the subject, I'm sure he's ran truckloads of 3100 in his 338wm as well. If not, I'd be surprised, he missed out. As for loading it in the 264wm, I'd not try it unless I had some good data suggesting it works well. That's where I'd start pulling out all of my old load manuals and doing some homework... Speer, sierra and Nosler usually listed loads with AA powder.


Speer? Not that I can find. Sierra, no 140’s. Nosier 6, 140 Partition or 140 CC. AA3100 start 52.5 Max 56.5.



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Funny thing is Accurate never published data for 264 Win mag until MagPro came out and Western bought em out. Here’s a link

http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/default.html

Just about all of the Accurate Arms manuals are there plus a lot of other older obscure data.



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The big red Accurate loading guide #1 copyrighted 1994 says starting load for 3100 with 140 Nosler partition is 50.4gr @2402fps & the max load is 56.0gr @2729fps in WW brass with CCI250s out of a 24" barrel.

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Originally Posted by riflegunbuilder
Thinking about using 3100 in 264 Win Mag with 140 gr bullets. Yes I know it is discontinued. If I am remembering right 3100 is pretty close to IMR 4831.



My 2003 Hornady manual shows a starting load of 55.3 grains of 3100 with a max load of 59.5 with their 140 grain bullets for a velocity of 2800fps with that top load.

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Data from load data


(Handloader Issue 160)
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS) Favorite?
140 Accurate AAC-3100 62.0 3,150
Remarks: Model 700 Remington, 24-inch stainless steel barrel, 9-inch twist, RP cases, Federal 215 primers

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Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS) Favorite?
140 Sierra SBT Accurate AAC-3100 55.5 2,830
Remarks:
140 Sierra SBT Accurate AAC-3100 58.0 2,936

primer: CCI 250 Magnum; test firearm: Universal Receiver; barrel length: Krieger 24"; maximum loads should be used with CAUTION; NOTE: The Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer Solid bullets (140 grain TBBC loads) have unique ballistic behavior compared to conventional bullets. Loads for TBBC and TBSS bullets may not "track" with data for conventional bullets. Use TBBC and TBSS data ONLY for TBBC and TBSS bullets.
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS) Favorite?
140 Speer Spitz SP Accurate AAC-3100 51.0 2704
Remarks: start charge
140 Speer Spitz SP Accurate AAC-3100 55.0 2854
Remarks: max charge
140 Speer TBBC Accurate AAC-3100 56.0 2788
Remarks: start charge
140 Speer TBBC Accurate AAC-3100 60.0 2939
Remarks: max charge

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Thanks guys. Gives me a starting place. I have about a pound of old H870 may work with it instead.


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