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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
China has been at war with us for years already. Stolen our technology, unfair trade, currency manipulation, bought off and blackmailed many of our politicians, biological warfare, and sponsoring cultural warfare that pits us against each other. They laugh at the leftist BS we waste time with and then sponsor more of it. The 2 toughest kids on the block sooner or later will settle it. Not only will we not see it coming most haven't recognized its already happening. We educated their best and brightest in our universities. The irony is that these same universities are moving our kids towards the cultural revolution like the one the Chinese had that held them back for so long.

President Trump addressed these issues head on.

The Demonrats and some of the Repubs are being paid by the ChiComms.

The universities are educating hundreds of thousands of Chicomms.

ChiComms are involved in military programs being conducted at universities all across this nation.


Communist Goals

26. Present homosexuality and degeneracy as normal.
27. Discredit the Bible.
28. Eliminate prayer in the schools.

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And training troops in western countries, no doubt gathering intelligence. Spy satellites are all well and good, but boots on the ground is valuable also.

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It's like 1930's Germany over there. They are preparing for something big. Most unprepared nations are anti war right up until they're prepared. Then a switch flips for most of them and watch out.

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Hmmm regardless of the facts of the movie how did North Korea “winning” workout for NK? It’s seems like all but a very small handful of NK elites would have been a lot better off had they lost.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
It's like 1930's Germany over there. They are preparing for something big. Most unprepared nations are anti war right up until they're prepared. Then a switch flips for most of them and watch out.

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Tocqueville said something to that effect. I’m not so sure that it’s as true as it once was but there’s probably still some truth to it. Either the US or China could wipe the other out but China seems to have all the balls and willingness to push where it makes strategic sense to Chinese national interest whereas our US politicians pick fights in the Middle East that only benefit the war machine, private military industrial complex that buys and pays for our politicians.

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Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:



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I knew a Marine that fought at the Frozen Chosin as a young man. He didn't talk about it much other than it was brutal cold and bloody. Dead Chicoms stacked like sandbags around foxholes. Hand to hand fighting. He owned a successful construction company and later in life he worked tirelessly to return the remains of his fellow Marines that were left behind.

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A good book on part of the Chosin retreat is The Last Stand of Fox Company.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:


Nixon was rumored to have had a young mistress in China. Probably not a coincidence or that McConnell is married to the daughter of a high ranking CCP leader. Nixon and Kissinger opening trade with China was one of the biggest mistakes that the US has ever made and resulted in the gutting of decent working class US jobs and the rise of China to a world power at our expense.

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It happened!



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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:


Nixon was rumored to have had a young mistress in China. Probably not a coincidence or that McConnell is married to the daughter of a high ranking CCP leader. Nixon and Kissinger opening trade with China was one of the biggest mistakes that the US has ever made and resulted in the gutting of decent working class US jobs and the rise of China to a world power at our expense.



No, it's all the Demonrats fault.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:


Nixon was rumored to have had a young mistress in China. Probably not a coincidence or that McConnell is married to the daughter of a high ranking CCP leader. Nixon and Kissinger opening trade with China was one of the biggest mistakes that the US has ever made and resulted in the gutting of decent working class US jobs and the rise of China to a world power at our expense.

No, it's all the Demonrats fault.

LOL

Well 60’s-80’s neocons and RINO’s of today aren’t much better. They’re all big money/big business globalist over the best interest of the USA.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:


Nixon was rumored to have had a young mistress in China. Probably not a coincidence or that McConnell is married to the daughter of a high ranking CCP leader. Nixon and Kissinger opening trade with China was one of the biggest mistakes that the US has ever made and resulted in the gutting of decent working class US jobs and the rise of China to a world power at our expense.



No, it's all the Demonrats fault.



Before Clinton the only things I saw imported from China was rubber dog crap and fireworks. Nixon may have turned the knob but Clinton kicked the door open. Between Clinton giving China most favored nation trading status and Nafta its pretty amazing that anything is still made in the USA.

I had a professor who was a Harvard PHD in economics say in about 1999 that we wouldn't see the full effects of the kinds of things Clinton was doing on our economy until about 2007 or 2008. He said he estimated it would take about 8 years to scout locations, make agreements, build factories, and train employees in China based on their limited infrastructure at that time. He said about the end of 2008 take a look at the economy and thank Bill Clinton for it. He was a big liberal and Clinton fan.

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Korean War: 170,000 allies killed, nearly 1 million Chinese and NK'ers dead, and a total failure of NK invasion of the south. Only communists would call that victory.


When did the Commies ever tell the truth? They never admit a defeat even if they lose every man and every inch they fought for. The people will never know different, and the fat cats at the top will sleep like babies and have all the food, booze, and women they want. That IS Communism.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Please,

let us not forget who started this all, long before Clinton and Biden:


Nixon was rumored to have had a young mistress in China. Probably not a coincidence or that McConnell is married to the daughter of a high ranking CCP leader. Nixon and Kissinger opening trade with China was one of the biggest mistakes that the US has ever made and resulted in the gutting of decent working class US jobs and the rise of China to a world power at our expense.



No, it's all the Demonrats fault.



Before Clinton the only things I saw imported from China was rubber dog crap and fireworks. Nixon may have turned the knob but Clinton kicked the door open. Between Clinton giving China most favored nation trading status and Nafta its pretty amazing that anything is still made in the USA.

I had a professor who was a Harvard PHD in economics say in about 1999 that we wouldn't see the full effects of the kinds of things Clinton was doing on our economy until about 2007 or 2008. He said he estimated it would take about 8 years to scout locations, make agreements, build factories, and train employees in China based on their limited infrastructure at that time. He said about the end of 2008 take a look at the economy and than Bill Clinton for it. He was a big liberal and Clinton fan.

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I disagree. It was Nixon that opened up trade with China and the rest of the world followed our lead. Prior to that China was as black balled from world trade and global relations as North Korea is today. Granted it took a few years for China to get production ramped up but Nixon and Kissinger are to blame. Nixon believed (and was right) that a Democrat couldn’t take the political hit as far as opening relationships with China. That a democrat would be viewed as weak on communism. The only thing really unclear is rather Nixon honestly believed that opening trade with China would bring China into the Wests mode of thinking or if he was just bought and paid for.

China became a global power on the backs of a dirt poor class that serve the party elite as their manufacturing base and dual purpose as a manufacturing supply chain base that empowers the Chinese government to use their own and stolen western technology to their own ends. Not only does it steal our jobs, weaken our middle class and cause domestic strife but it works dual purpose for China to hold everything from our pharmaceuticals to semi conductors over our head and empowers China to leverage US corporations to share trade secrets in exchange for slave labor.

Clinton rightfully deserves blame for NAFTA but NAFTA had more RINO support than it did Democrat support.

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Nixon did get the ball rolling but the major technological advances in China started with Clinton reducing restrictions and giving them access to our technologies, trade secrets, patents, nuclear labs and universities. The Chinese nuclear technology alone advanced 30 years just during the last half of the 90's. Good old wen ho Lee putting our highest level nuclear secrets up on unsecured systems may have had something to do with it.

I'll admit I'm a little biased though because I ve never been a fan of the Clinton's but I know from first hand experience that the hard core communist Chinese leaders love Bill Clinton and credit him a lot for their fast rise.

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If released in the U.S, liberals would flock to it in droves.


If they add subtitles I will download and watch just for the heck of it.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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