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The actor could load the gun with the prop man's assistance in lining up the cylinders. That way there'd be 2 sets of eyes on each cartridge too.




Amen to all of that!!
I understand it would have taken extra time to set up, but couldn't the camera have been remotely operated? For rehearsal, just take a few stills? Alec could have backed up to an "X" in the dust that was pre-positioned.

There's lots of young people that know their stuff. Unfortunately, self-assurance usually only comes with age.

Easy to bag on Baldwin. He’s a douchebag.

But the puzzle may really be, on a movie set, when there are scenes wherein the muzzle is, by plan/script, pointed at the camera, or pointed at an individual, what then is considered unsafe? So, in movie making, it’s not as simple as we make it while hunting or sport shooting, as to simply muzzle-control and all will be fine even should there be an error made in handling.

What i wonder is, what was Baldwin DOING when this firearm fired? Was he in a scene where he was instructed to be pointing the revolver (?) directly where he was, and instructed to be pulling the trigger in the shot? Can’t blame him, then. The firearm’s prep by the armorer and whatever safety protocols they have, are at fault in that scenario.

On the other hand, if he was f’ing around with said revolver, outside the scene/filming, or, in the scene but not pointing the weapon where he was instructed to/expected to per training, then yeah, the death is on him due negligence, any armorer’s “mistake” being no excuse.

Thus far, all i’ve read is the scapegoating of the armorer. It’s only human to blame someone else in an event like this, at least initially kneejerk in the shick of what happened, and particularly if one is a Hollywood self-absorbed douchebag who hates guns, no doubt. But, be interesting to hear eventually WHAT the real context of the shooting was, per above.

It’s called making a movie as realistically as possible with gun play involved. I’ll give you an explanation on that as soon as you give me one on how an actor can do everything required without to some degree relying on someone else with regard to gun safety and doing a few things that would never be done in a normal gun handling situation.

She's probably HAWT.

I read online that she is Thell Reed's daughter. He is quite well known as a quick-draw shooter.

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Where did I say any of that?

I'm just shocked the 24y/o diversity hire didn't pan out......

She wasn’t a diversity hire. Her dad is the best firearms guy in Hollywood. She got the job because it was assumed she was taught well by him.

there is absolutely no reason for a live round to be anywhere near a movie set.

You would think there has to be considerable training and certifications to work in the business.

For a live round to get there was some sort of incredible, almost inexplicable frickup, to some intentional and evil schit. As an accident, it’s so hard to explain that the intentional almost looks more likely.

From what I’ve read Baldwin was rehearsing a scene while the crew was setting up the cameras that would be operating remotely while filming. He did a run through first where nothing happened, the second time the gun fired towards the camera with the people there.

Somebody here stated that there were reports of the "original" armorer shooting live rounds between scenes, over a hill off the filming set prior to the incident. I'm sure the truth will come out at some point, the pizzed off Union members won't protect the guilty party that's for sure.

But live ammo on a film set is mind boggling at best.

As much as I dislike the guy, I hope for Alex sake it was an accident. I wonder if any phone messages will appear like he left his daughter.

I detest Baldwin and the guy deserves all crap flung at him regardless if he is responsible or not.

News says live round in Hollywood lingo doesn't necessarily mean primer, powder and bullet. It means it'll go pow in some way. It'll be interesting to learn what the projectile actually was.

There shouldn't be live rounds on the set, period. If the projectiles needs to be seen in the cylinder, empty case, no live primer loads only..

NEVER POINT A GUN at something U don't want to kill!!!!!

That idiot is not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

my pistols that are on or in my dresser on a nightstand by the bed are always pointed towards the outside wall even if unloaded, creeps me out if they are pointed towards me just laying there.

Who posted the video of the guy trying to kill a high point?
Concrete in the barrel, quick steel in the barrel, drilled a couple of holes and put nails through the barrel...
Most every one sent a projectile (or some portion thereof) and the obstruction through a target at 7yds..
That little cross they put in cap guns and starter pistols is not something to bet your life on...

There is also the story about the guy that created the "Mares Leg" hollywood shortened lever action...