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You are not familiar at all with how a movie set works, are you?

If industry standards are followed, the actor isn't finger fuucking the gun to "check" it, and, even if it was a rare actor/actress with a clue, dummy ammo looks like live ammo, so often "checking" would just show you that SOMETHING is in the firearm.

Baldwin had a single-action revolver. It wasn't his job to "check" it, there are multiple safety layers built into industry standard processes.

The fact that these amateur hour idiots obviously were not following industry standards is gonna result in a person or persons being liable, but if Baldwin is on that list, it'll be as a producer who hired the idiots, not as the actor who pulled the trigger.

As much as I hate Alec Baldwin, and as much as I’d like to see the POS fry, it sounds to me like the gal that was the Set Armorer, Thell Reed’s daughter, was in way over her head, and pretty much clueless. Daddy got her The the job in that job field, where she had no business being.

And while I agree Baldwin bears some responsibility for pointing the gun at someone he hadn’t checked and pulling the trigger, ultimately it was the Sets Armorer’s responsibility to make sure the gun and dumbass actors are safe.

If they “get” Baldwin for this, it will be because he’s the Producer and hired the incompetent little gal. And that will be in a Civil Suit.

Being that it happened in the Libertard Haven Santa Fe, I’m not competent that the Libertard DA and Libertard Sheriff will arrest or prosecute any of the dumbasses involved.
We shall see. But I’m betting Baldwin is not even charged. Or if he is charged criminally, the POS will skate with a slap on the wrist, at the very most.

It's a movie set, play acting, there should be no live ammo on the set.

They hired incompetent underqualified twit to handle firearm props and safety. It sounds like when as one would expect. That's a pretty major fug up, someone is going to get charged with manslaughter. Alec Baldwin is a chunt, but I don't think he owns this one. Whoever hired that fat little twit and the the fat little twit own it. It doesn't take much brains to keep that kind of thing from happening. But then again I never meant a liberal with even half a brain.

I'll admit that I don't know first hand how a movie set works with firearms or anything else for that matter, but I cannot think of a single situation including a movie set that trumps basic firearm safety. If this situation doesn't reinforce that for you then I don't know what would. You say it wasn't his job to "check" it then why not? I know I would and I also know that after "checking" it to verify the condition I still would not point it at anything I didn't intend to shoot.

That is the responsibility of EVERY person that has a firearm in his or her hand regardless of whether it is a movie set or not.

I wonder who loaded Hinckley's gun?

Right?

I must have missed the part about not being responsible if you are from Hollywood in the NRA's 10 Commandments of Gun Safety


Maybe Goalie can point it out.

do we know there was "live ammo" on the set, assuming you are not referring to blanks?

If that info has been posted here, verifiable info, I must have missed it.

Without live ammo on the set, the incident could not have happened.

Without live ammo on the set, the incident could not have happened.

Brandon Lee was killed with a "blank." Plastic pieces entered his abdomen and he died as a result.

The only sure thing that would have prevented this is basic firearm safety procedure.

Are you considering blanks as "live ammo"?

if so, how do you shoot a western movie without them?

Now, if the inexperienced property person bought a box of rounds for the gun, thinking they were blanks and it turns out they weren't, then there's a problem.

If a blank round (wooden plug?) was fired, hit the gal, penetrated then hit the director dude, were they using "live ammo"?

Bingo!

However, there is still the necessity of making the movie and having "shootouts" look real requiring some pointing of weapons at an opponent I would think?

No I am not, but I am familiar with how life works and how to deal with firearms. I guess you believe that people should not be responsible for their own actions


I'd likely think that way if I was from Minnesota too.

Right?

I must have missed the part about not being responsible if you are from Hollywood in the NRA's 10 Commandments of Gun Safety


Maybe Goalie can point it out.