24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Campfire Kahuna
OP Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Who makes a reliable and functional night scope?


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


GB1

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Who makes a reliable and functional night scope?



Dan, there's lots out there.

A good entry level scope is the Sightmark Wraith. $499. Sometimes you can find them on sale cheaper.

https://outdoorlegacygear.com/colle...igital-riflescope?variant=15986263326794

The IR light that comes with them is inadequate, in my opinion. Having a good IR light is like turning on the lights for a digital NV scope. wink

I use one of these and can see much further than I can shoot. I can see clearly 800 yards or so.

https://sniperhoglights.com/66lrx-gun-hunters-package-with-1-4-colors/

This video was made with the above equipment.



You can also use the scope in the daytime.



Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
J
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
Details on rifle. Scope is great


Have fun.....j3
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,487
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,487
Dan, the first decision to make is whether you want to go conventional NV or thermal.

The advantage to conventional NV is expense. There are decent NV scopes out there starting t well under $1k. The biggest disadvantage is that it relies on a either a certain amount of ambient light or infrared illumination. One of the big problems with IR illumination is that nearby objects reflect a lot of that illumination back to the scope and saturate it, essentially blinding the device. Also, muzzle flash tends to momentarily blind conventional NV.

The advantage to thermal is (IMO) two fold: there is no illuminator necessary, so it does not share that weakness with conventional NV. The other advantage is that animals stick out like a sore thumb, making it easy to quickly scan around you and detect any potential target. The disadvantage is cost. There's new stuff on the market I know nothing about, and I think some starts at less than $2k but don't take that to the bank. I'd say that if you spend around $3k you should be able to acquire something very usable.

My personal recommendation is Pulsar. My personal "brand to avoid" is ATN. I did all my buying several years ago, though, and a fresher perspective may be more helpful to you.


Don't be the darkness.

America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.


Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,523
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,523
I bought a Wraith on BBar's recommendation, along with a better Illuminator.

He did not steer me wrong.

It's a decent setup for very little pain, which was important to me. Just testing the water so I didn't want to put 2-3 grand into something I may not use much. We could not renew our lease this year and that put coyote hunting on hold. I have secured permission to deer hunt a couple parcels of private land, so the possibility may develop.

IC B2

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Campfire Kahuna
OP Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Thanks for the input, very much appreciated.


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,728
C
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,728
I also bought the Wraith after pestering Bbar a bit by PM. As with Vic, I didn't want a bigger investment in an unused piece of kit.

The Wraith works well on an AR, you'll want the scope close, with your eye at the eye cup.
The Hog light works well and it's now a complete package for the coyotes that visit the farm at night.


"Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them.
You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend."
Isak Dinesen

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Originally Posted by jimmy3
Details on rifle. Scope is great



Mostly on hogs I use my AR10 in .308.

Was shooting 165gr soft points.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,232
H
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
H
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,232
So do you need to purchase some type of scope mount to put this on your rifle?


Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Originally Posted by Huntz
So do you need to purchase some type of scope mount to put this on your rifle?



No.

It comes with a very sturdy built in mount that attaches to a standard picatinny rail.

If you are shooting a rifle that doesn't have a picatinny rail, as an AR type rifle does, you may have to get a picatinny rail base mount for your rifle that attaches where your rifle is drilled and tapped for scope rings.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
IC B3

Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
J
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
Nice rig. What was your IR illuminator


Have fun.....j3
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
J
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 212
Never mind I see it now….


Have fun.....j3
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,506
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,506
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Thanks for the input, very much appreciated.


I bought my Wraith based on Barry’s recommendation. I did call Cameraland and they had the best price I could find. 👍


�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.

---------------------------------------------------------
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Who makes a reliable and functional night scope?



What are you up to?


"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Campfire Kahuna
OP Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,088
Hogs and ‘yotes


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 938
L
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
L
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 938
You can get military/LE grade night vison and thermal from TNVC. It is not cheap.

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,595
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Hogs and ‘yotes



Dan, I was sitting on one of my stands with the Wraith last year, and when it got dark, I switched to night vision.

I'd placed the Foxpro caller out and turned it on before getting situated, a couple of hours before. After it got dark, I activated the caller with the remote and sure enough, a coyote came right into the sendero.

Shot it with my .308. Usually, when calling coyotes I use a .223 with 55gr Vmax bullets, as it kills them quicker. But the .308 was what I had...



Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,076
F
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
F
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,076
I also have a Wraith (and spoke with Barry about them). I got the 2-16, for the larger FOV. I’ve also bought a better light for it, but have yet to put it on. The “included” illuminator (I’ll disagree with Barry a bit, here), while not fantastic, is perfectly adequate out to 150 yards (and you may get 200 out of it). For guys who hunt wooded areas, it would likely do all they need. For open country, get a better light.

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,079
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,079
Can you use the wraith in the daytime?

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,076
F
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
F
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,076
Originally Posted by DrDeath
Can you use the wraith in the daytime?


Yes. View is pretty good, until you start going up in magnification. The zoom is “digital”, so the picture quickly becomes more “pixelated”, as mag increases. Stay at 2-4x (on the 2-16), and 4-8x (on the 4-32), and it’s good enough for killin’ stuff.

It has 3 modes to cycle through, 1) black/white night mode (2) green night mode (3) daytime mode

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

476 members (10gaugemag, 17CalFan, 16penny, 12savage, 10gaugeman, 10ring1, 55 invisible), 2,917 guests, and 1,164 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,276
Posts18,467,558
Members73,927
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.101s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8960 MB (Peak: 1.0472 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 03:55:20 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS