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Originally Posted by alpinecrick

Without a longer (heavier, more awkward) barrel it's a 30-06,



Wrong. The WSM is faster at all barrel lengths, more accurate, fits in smaller rifles, and is just flat out better. There is no question, and no useful grounds for the .30-06 to compete on. The .300 WSM is simply superior to the .30-06.

Go ahead, tell me how wonderful the .30-06 is if you forget your ammo! Do it!

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Originally Posted by haazrob

Poor MD, I can't imagine the struggle with a NULA. Someday....


Yeah, let's spend $4000 on a push feed, non-free-floated rifle notorious for accuracy issues that only takes [bleep] cartridge triggers.

I'm predicting they soon go out of business again and we get NNULA laugh

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Probably light on vag too.


No, it sounds like he has a very big one.

How else could he piss and moan like that?



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And one again we discover the ,30-06 fangirls are the most sensitive out there. When the failure of their garbage cartridge is pointed out, the cry and whine. But they can't defend it, because the .30-06 lacks any advantages..

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
And one again we discover the ,30-06 fangirls are the most sensitive out there. When the failure of their garbage cartridge is pointed out, the cry and whine. But they can't defend it, because the .30-06 lacks any advantages..


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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
And one again we discover the ,30-06 fangirls are the most sensitive out there. When the failure of their garbage cartridge is pointed out, the cry and whine. But they can't defend it, because the .30-06 lacks any advantages..


Funny post! Seems to me the fangirl for the 300 WSM is crying out for attention which is needed since his puzzy hurts bad over the 30-06 being so good if you have one you don't need a 300 WSM. That brass for the 30-06 is always available and cheap is a nice touch also.


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I've never owned a .257 Roberts but i have a couple of friends that do and they love that caliber. I feel the same way about my 25.06 smile.


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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by alpinecrick

Without a longer (heavier, more awkward) barrel it's a 30-06,



Wrong. The WSM is faster at all barrel lengths, more accurate, fits in smaller rifles, and is just flat out better. There is no question, and no useful grounds for the .30-06 to compete on. The .300 WSM is simply superior to the .30-06.

Go ahead, tell me how wonderful the .30-06 is if you forget your ammo! Do it!


According to the Winchester website the M70 FWTs in 30/06 and 300WSM both weigh 7lbs. The WSM is 1.5" longer due to its 24" bbl.

The higher velocity of the WSM (180gr Power Points) results it about 2" less drop at 300 yards. So for the vast majority of hunters, what is the advantage?

Oh, perhaps the advantage is the 20% increase in recoil?

Let's see if you an respond without childish insults...

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Here's my .257 Roberts, a Ruger #1-A. After some stock tweaking and load development, I have settled on an 80 gr. Barnes TTSX bullet, ahead of Hybrid 100V powder. This load shoots sub-MOA, and is a real pleasure to shoot. My preferred rifle for stand hunting for Whitetail.
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I like the Roberts and the 25-06. I probably have shot more with the 25-06. Both are great cartridges.


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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
And one again we discover the ,30-06 fangirls are the most sensitive out there. When the failure of their garbage cartridge is pointed out, the cry and whine. But they can't defend it, because the .30-06 lacks any advantages..

Seriously? You call the 30-06 a garbage cartridge?
You are too dim witted to be a halfwitt. I guess you are fully capable of being a dumbass.


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Originally Posted by southtexas


According to the Winchester website the M70 FWTs in 30/06 and 300WSM both weigh 7lbs. The WSM is 1.5" longer due to its 24" bbl.

The higher velocity of the WSM (180gr Power Points) results it about 2" less drop at 300 yards. So for the vast majority of hunters, what is the advantage?

Oh, perhaps the advantage is the 20% increase in recoil?

Let's see if you an respond without childish insults...



Short actions are lighter. That's just a fact. The WSM also saves you on EFFECTIVE barrel length because the length that covers the case is wasted. So It is lighter both for the barrel and the action. Those are basic facts which anyone should be able to understand.

Drop is irrelevant. Buy a rangefinder. The reason you shoot a faster round is to reduce your windage and therefore susceptibility to wind call error and to extend the range of reliable expansion.

If you are looking for reduced recoil buy a 6mm Creedmoor.

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Originally Posted by tankerjockey

Seriously? You call the 30-06 a garbage cartridge?
You are too dim witted to be a halfwitt. I guess you are fully capable of being a dumbass.


It is absolutely a garbage cartridge. It was junk militarily (far too heavy, far too big a bore diameter, and of course the -03 clown show initially) and junk as a sporting cartridge (numerous failings). The .276 Pedersen was merely the first of many superior alternatives in the US sphere, with the .30-06 falling behind both our own development and that of the Europeans in the interwar years. By WW2 it was unquestionably a liability.

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