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FYI for the upcoming 'sporty times':

https://www.americanpartisan.org/20...et-resistance-of-typical-suburban-homes/

If it can be seen, it can be hit. If it can be hit, it can be killed. If you can be seen, you can be hit. If you can be hit, you can be killed. Concealment is something that hides you from view, thus the root word of conceal. Concealment typically does not provide protection from bullets. Cover is something that can protect you from penetrating gun fire. Concealment can deflect bullets, but it will not stop them. For instance, shooting through thick brush or foliage may cause bullets to miss, but if you are on the receiving end of fire, don’t count on it.

Just because you can’t see your target doesn’t mean that your bullets won’t hit him. If you need to kill someone and they are hiding behind something, odds are you can try shooting through it. Cinder blocks appear to be solid and capable of stopping bullets, but they aren’t.

One example of this is from an instructor of mine who received a shot from a suspect from behind a cinder block wall. My instructor knew where the suspect was hiding and shooting from, so my instructor fired his .357 Magnum through the wall (where the shooter’s head/chest would be). His first shots cracked the hollow blocks and the remaining four hit and killed the suspect.

Your suburban home will not offer true cover. The best you can hope for in a stucco or siding and wood home is great deflection and energy depletion of bullets. That is why getting low and far away from where bullets might come from is vital. Luck plays a part here and anything in the way of a bullet before it reaches the cover you are hiding behind gives you a better chance of survival.

The Marine Corps has the following to say regarding weapon penetration in urban areas. The most likely threat will be from the AR-15’s 5.56mm round.

b. Weapon Penetration. The penetration that can be achieved with a 5.56-mm round depends on the range to the target and the type of material being fired against. Single 5.56-mm rounds are not effective against structural materials (as opposed to partitions) when fired at close range—the closer the range, the less the penetration.

(1) For the 5.56-mm round, maximum penetration occurs at 200 meters. At ranges of less than 25 meters, penetration is greatly reduced. At 10 meters, penetration by the M16 round is poor as a result of the tremendous stress placed on this high-speed round, which causes it to yaw upon striking a target. Stress causes the projectile to break up, and the resulting fragments are often too small to penetrate.

(2) Even with reduced penetration at short ranges, interior walls made of thin wood paneling, sheetrock, or plaster offer no protection against 5.56-mm rounds. Common office furniture such as desks and chairs cannot stop these rounds, but a layer of books 18 to 24 inches thick can.

(3) Wooden-framed buildings and single cinder-block walls offer little protection from 5.56-mm rounds. When clearing such structures, Marines must ensure that friendly casualties do not result from rounds passing through walls, floors, or ceilings.[1]

7.62mm rounds have greater energy and greater penetration, but at short ranges tend to exhibit penetration characteristics similar to 5.56. 9mm and other pistol bullets will have even less energy to penetrate. Regardless of the caliber, it should be assumed that all bullets will penetrate anything other than substantial cover or correctly rated body armor for that caliber.

BULLET PENETRATION OF SUBURBAN HOMES

Several formal and informal studies of the bullet resistance of homes have been done. The results show that while homes aren’t truly “invisible” to bullets, their ballistic resistance is not enough to provide comfortable protection against aimed fire or “lucky” stray rounds.

Gun bloggers performed tests with typical home defense weapons. This was against the individual construction elements (bricks and boards) and not an actual building or simulated wall. Tested against gypsum drywall (Sheetrock), .22 LR cartridges penetrated eight inches, while higher velocity and larger calibers, like .22 Magnum or 9mm and .45, penetrated up to 12 inches. Note that each panel is usually 5/8ths of an inch thick.

Against cinder block, only bullets larger than 9mm caused structural damage. It took multiple shots to crack the block. One .357 Magnum round would “chunk” the brick and multiple rounds caused the brick to fail. Various sources have reported that anything smaller than 9mm will not seriously damage cinder block, but multiple shots from larger calibers may damage the block sufficiently to penetrate.

Shotgun slugs easily penetrated drywall and destroyed cinder blocks; shot tended to ricochet off the blocks without causing damage. Buckshot penetrated 12 inches of drywall and birdshot penetrated two inches.[2]

Canadian researchers fired .38 Special, 9mm, and .40 caliber rounds from handguns and found a third to two-thirds loss of velocity after bullets exited a simulated stucco exterior wall. Wood and vinyl siding covered walls caused about a 15% loss of velocity after penetration. Stucco walls were the most durable, which would slow a standard range type bullet down to about half-velocity.[3]

However, bullets traveling at even 500-700 feet per second are deadly. Using the blogger’s test data above, a .38 Special round traveling at 700 feet per second penetrated six inches of drywall; more than enough velocity to go through five walls. It is beneficial that interior walls do have studs and wiring inside as well as other household decorations and furniture that could further deflect or slow the bullet.

Rifle bullets, like the ubiquitous AR-15’s 5.56mm bullet, actually penetrates less building materials than handgun bullets, due to the rifle bullet’s unique characteristics; yet this is cold comfort. AR-15 bullets penetrated into ballistic gelatin (which simulates human tissue) about seven inches or a third of the distance that handgun bullets did after penetrating a typical interior wall. Pistol bullets went in about 20 inches.[4] Seven inches of penetration would easily cause serious injuries or death to someone on the other side of the wall.

The Blog Box O’Truth found that 5.56 rounds “deviated so much from its course after the first wall, that it was almost impossible to hit the other walls to test penetration.” So they built bigger wall panels and standard M193 bullets went through four drywall panels. Insulation made no difference, but for 5.56 rounds, the air gap of a room may make a difference.[5]

Their tests show that the bullets “keyholed” or turned sideways as they tumbled in flight end over end (after penetration), making the eponymous mark. The air gap of a room means more time to tumble and lose velocity. However, these walls were simulated interior walls spaced ten feet apart, not exterior walls. Velocity was not recorded, but death or injuries can’t be excluded from probability of a bullet that made it through.[6]

A video from Paul Harrell, an ex-US Army marksman, demonstrated that .30 Carbine and 5.56mm bullets penetrated a simulated exterior walls of wood sheathing, plywood, and drywall, firing first through four panels of drywall before the exterior wall was contacted. He also noted the 5.56 rounds keyholing.[7]

A Canadian study found that .223 (5.56) and .308 bullets went through one simulated typical stucco wall. The .223 bullet was believed to have fragmented through the wall while the .308 bullet retained sufficient energy to wound or kill. 12 gauge buckshot was stopped while the slugs penetrated easily. Tests against vinyl siding walls showed the bullets going through both walls, when shot at a corner. 9mm and .40 pistol bullets also penetrated the wall.

Clay and concrete bricks (solid) exhibited strong bullet resistance. Large-caliber high-velocity hunting rounds (7mm-.30 caliber) created holes and cracks but did not penetrate. This is consistent with US military testing that multiple rounds centered in one place were required to penetrate solid blocks.[8]

What does all this mean?

The further away from where the shooter is, the better chance of survival you have. That is why I recommend that anyone taking cover inside the house do so furthest away from the street or wherever the shooter outside is. More material means more energy loss to the bullet and a greater chance for it to be deflected.

A typical home has all sorts of stuff in and on the walls, plus furniture and decorations, which might make a bullet go in a harmless direction. On the other hand, random chance could send it into you. For someone at the back of the house, down low, a stray bullet is not much of a danger. Intentional, aimed fire is, however.

The greatest danger is a bullet going through a window and continuing undeflected through multiple interior walls. Many people killed in drive-by shootings of homes were struck when bullets passed through windows.

-Homes with solid brick veneers or walls offer the highest bullet resistance.

-Stucco walled homes offer the second highest resistance, but bullets that penetrate can still kill.

-Siding covered walls offer very poor bullet resistance.

-Insulation offers no protective value but an airgap (a room) can cause 5.56 bullets to keyhole.

-Bullets fired inside the house can travel through the entire structure if not deflected.

-Things inside the home may cause bullets to be deflected instead of hitting someone.

-Stray bullets present a low level of danger but their danger is through their randomness.

-The velocity loss exhibited by stucco walls (most common in the Southwest) show that soft body armor has a benefit inside the home against some types of bullets.

References

[1] USMC, Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain (MOUT), MCWP 3-35.3, 1998, pp. B3-4

[2] Gun-Tests.com, “Handgun Bullets: How Do They Penetrate in Home Materials?”, originally published October 13, 2015, updated March 19, 2020, retrieved 06/15/2021. https://www.gun-tests.com/ammo/handgun-bullets-how-do-they-penetrate-in-home-materials-4/

[3] R. W. Schiefke, Canadian Police Research Centre, TR-11-09 “Penetration of Exterior House Walls by Modern Police Ammunition,” October 1997.

[4] Gary K. Roberts, “The Wounding Effects of 5.56MM/.223 Law Enforcement General Purpose Shoulder Fired Carbines Compared with 12 GA. Shotguns and Pistol Caliber Weapons Using 10% Gelatin as Tissue Simulant,” Would Ballistics Review, Vol. 3 No. 4, 1998

[5] [5] The Box O’ Truth, “#14 – Rifles, Shotguns, and Walls,” undated, retrieved 6/15/21, https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-12-insulated-walls/

[6] The Box O’ Truth, “#14 – Rifles, Shotguns, and Walls,” undated, retrieved 6/15/21, https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls/

[7] Paul Harrell, YouTube, March 1, 2020, retrieved 6/15/21, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw8IiRgSMFQ

[8] Scott D. Kashuba, et al., Resistance of Exterior Walls to High Velocity Projectiles, Canadian Masonry Institute, Jan. 2001.

Cheap homes around the military base here

You can stand on the porch, rip off some vinyl siding, punch through the pink styrofoam, and kick yourself a hole in the sheetrock and youre in

Only osb on the corners.
Use 2” nails to get thru the 3/4 pink board amd hang the siding on the studs.

Whole hvac is duct in flex even the trunks.

3/4" pink board insulation on the exterior walls.

No wonder dem houses bees so cheep there.

R-11 batts inside too.

It's way more common to be built tgat way than mant think.
You live in a spec built built house?
You can bet it's cheaper than a street who're Jonesing at midnight.


Had a burglary think here for a little while.
Utility knifed the siding., kicked their way in.
Pretty quiet, could easy choose entry point.

Another crew was hitting remote businesses.
Steel frame buildings. Cordless drill, pop the screws off the
siding, kick their way in.

First crew got caught.
Second never did.

Unless your house is brick, the contents offer more protection
than the building. None of it is sufficient for a fire fight.

Most older houses where I live, including my own, are double brick cavity walls - two courses of solid bricks separated by an air gap. Exterior and internal walls included. Still and all, I would prefer not to be taking fire here.

LEO shooting .45 hdyroshok out of a Sig 220. Bullet went thru wall separating bathroom and bedroom. Kept traveling thru bedroom/exterior wall with vinyl siding. Entered neighbors house and ended up lodged in the tile backsplash in the kitchen. Upon inspection, it’s believed the round “clogged” with drywall from the first wall and basically turned into an FMJ. Not many houses out there that offer any real cover.

Current house is milled log. I’m good for most rounds. When I win the lotto it’ll be field stone.

With a spring in the living room, and lead sheeting roof.

But then again the title said suburban home, so I’m out I guess.

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Field stone was my choice, but wallet said vinyl siding, a cracker box as far as trying to soak up bullets.

My poured basement with solid 8" concrete walls is a big plus, if only I can get to it if it hits the fan.

Hide behind the A team, galvanized roofing was bulletproof on that show.

Someday…

I don’t mean as siding, I mean the walls of the house being local stone. Put some wood paneling on the inside, thick steel shutters for the windows and a tunnel to the barn.

Absofugginlutely !

Steel shutters on hinges. I hear ya on the whole thing. No need to further elaborate.

Just use 1/2" AR500 siding on your house.

When I lived in Alaska, my friend dropped his 35 Whelen, it discharged and the 250 gr slug lengthwised our neighbors doublewide. Even went through the Corelle Ware dishes in the kitchen and living room furniture.

Thank God we don't live in the lower 48. We never close our blinds up here.

Preliminary sketch of an early design for our final house... Field stone interior. CIP concrete exterior. 1/2" plate glass fixed window on entire perimeter. Wood structure above floats on structural steel (black in model).

The overall design sucks, but everything has a starting point.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BUqiTG7drn9Er6Dq6