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Maybe just to have some imaginary vantage point from which they look down on other people.

You know---an inferiority complex.

Hey lighten up. That's the one thing he's good at.

Facts are facts, and the fact is the .30-06 is a [bleep] cartridge. I really care nothing for the approval of the fangirls. You can sit there and jerk each other off and talk about how great grandpa carried a .30-06 while standing guard at his clerk barracks for all I care. None of that makes the .30-06 any better as a cartridge. It's still [bleep].

After having read the OP and NOT having read any of the responses so as to not be poisoned by the arguments contained therein that I'm sure followed, let me just say: "Oh look, someone who has a reasonable and subjective preference other than mine. Good for him."

This phaggot is actually making me hungry for a Big Mac. He won't stop showing his as-s or talking about McDonalds

There ya go again, confusing fantasy with facts.

LB, you do have passion, and you may have some nuanced points, but like how many Dutch girls have small feet — none — that is the “practical field difference” in most hunting scenarios between the 308 and the older 30/06..

Promoting the 308 as having some advantages over the ‘06 is because it followed the longer .30, and, because of it. It was developed as you know to “approach” early ‘06 ballistics in a shorter case. Tech advancement builds on the former entity.

Again, the practical difference for the hunter (not the military) is almost nil. Which is the number of Dutch girls who wear size 8’s.

Back to the .257 Roberts. I'd like add the 100 NPT BC of .377 at (+/- abit) 3200 fps from a 26" Ruger No1, PBR on a 6" target, 0-307yds.

This 100NPT was caught on the off side shoulder just under the skin. 187yds quartering away from left to right, retained 64.1g. Pretty much DRT. Whitetail.

Holy smokes Ed.. now that’s damn cool!

You learn your debating techniques from AOC? You use the logic of a member of the squad.

So is the 30/06 or the .257 Roberts the ultimate round?
Both are great, both are proven, they have gentle shoulders and good long case necks. Brass stands up for many handloads. Both have a sense of tradition about them.
What else do you need from a bottleneck round?
Serious hunters will acknowledge their effectiveness.
Like they say you can B.S. the fans but you won't B.S. the players, or anyone that has used these two fine rounds.

When it comes to hunting and killing power all that matters is what bullet is it, where does it hit, and at what speed. Those are the things that matter---not the headstamp.

100% agreed... there are a lot of roads to the same destination.

LB-Just another dumbass troll.

Yep!

Just for the record, here's the list of cartridges I've used to take big game--so far:

.224 caliber:
.22 Hornet
.22-250
.220 Swift
.223 WSSM

6mm:
.243 Winchester
6mm Remington
.240 Weatherby
6mm-06

.25:
.250 Savage
.257 Roberts
.257 Roberts Ackley Improved
.25-06
.257 Weatherby Magnum

6.5mm:
6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
6.5 Creedmoor
.260 Remington
6.5x55
6.5x57R
6.5 PRC
6.5-06
.264 Win. Magnum
26 Nosler

.270:
6.8 SPC
.270 Winchester
.270 WSM
.270 Wby. Magnum

7mm:
7mm-08
7x57
.280 Remington
.280 Rem. Ackley Improved
7mm Remington SAUM
7mm Remington Magnum
7mm Weatherby Magnum
7mm STW

.30:
.30-30 WCF
.300 Savage
.308 Winchester
.30-06
.300 WSM
.300 Winchester Magnum
.300 Weatherby Magnum

.33:
.338 Winchester Magnum

.35:
.35 Remington
.358 Winchester


9.3mm:
9.3 Barsness-Sisk (wildcat)
9,3x62 Mauser

.375 H&H

.416 Rigby

.45-70 Springfield

Obviously I have used more than a few to compare "field performance." Have take animals from pronghorns to big bull elk with the .300 WSM, but if I were going to choose one of the newer rounds as an all-around big game cartridge would go with the 7mm Remington SAUM instead of the .300 WSM. Used it for several years to take big game from whitetails and pigs in South Texas to caribou in northern Quebec, and it does the same basic things as the .300 WSM--but with higher-BC bullets in approximately the same weight.

But eventually moved on to" testing" other rounds, whether ancient or 21st-century cutting edge, because that's part of my job.

WHAT no B-29?!

I believe that 30-06 is the #1 for taking big game period. I do not know about .257 Bob, I shoot 25-06 which is about equal. I love 25-06 and have taken many varmints and deer with it. To each his own. Use what makes you happy. I only use premium bullets when reloading. It is a package deal for me. Good Shooting

That is an enviable record of experience Mule Deer.
We might as well concede to the dismal record of such an old albatross of a cartridge. Why the 30-06 has feebly held on for so long is the great mystery of the world. It is a complete and utter failure.

But then again, it is pretty unanimous on this thread that llama bob is a complete idiot and blow hard troll.
I think I’ll keep on using the -06 as the mood strikes me.

elkhunternm,

The B-29 proved to be such a super-effective, magical round (perhaps even better than the .300 WSM!) that the U.S. military decided to declare it top-secret, the reason it never became a commercial round...