|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,793
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,793 |
"Superior" is relative. The qualifications have to be listed. Perhaps, you missed the qualifier in my statement. For what you do is rather vague. It’s sufficiently detailed for my purposes.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 11,972
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 11,972 |
The Creedmoor is suffering the same fate the .270 Win. did in 1925. Time marches on but people don't change much. Shoot what you like. Live and let live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 9,593
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 9,593 |
The CM was first designed as a long range competition cartridge(600-1000 yards) & meant to shoot flatter with less recoil & wind drift than the very popular 308 that was nearly the standard at the time.
It succeeded.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,626
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,626 |
In the realm of felt recoil I really don’t think many people fully appreciate proper stock fit.
Makes all the difference in the world.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,023
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,023 |
In the realm of felt recoil I really don’t think many people fully appreciate proper stock fit.
Makes all the difference in the world. You are right about that. Our father bought us a used little Stevens break open 20 gauge when my brother and I were in elementary school. I have never shot any firearm since that was that unpleasant to shoot.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 4,680
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 4,680 |
This is not directed at the OP, but on a related point, it's interesting how many hunters want a rifle without much (if any) felt recoil AT THE SAME TIME they want a rifle that weighs virtually nothing for backcountry hunting. Those are diametrically opposed goals... and always will be. I'd much rather carry a slightly heavier rifle (lose a pound from your pack, or from your gut!) and have a more stable platform for shooting than 5# rifle that even a 7-08 flings around like a magnum. <rant over/>
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,586
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,586 |
This is not directed at the OP, but on a related point, it's interesting how many hunters want a rifle without much (if any) felt recoil AT THE SAME TIME they want a rifle that weighs virtually nothing for backcountry hunting. Those are diametrically opposed goals... and always will be. I'd much rather carry a slightly heavier rifle (lose a pound from your pack, or from your gut!) and have a more stable platform for shooting than 5# rifle that even a 7-08 flings around like a magnum. <rant over/> This! Have a friend that's always complaining about the weight of his rifle. That 30 lb intertube around his waist ain't gonna save his fat azz if he falls into the river.
Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,793
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,793 |
In the realm of felt recoil I really don’t think many people fully appreciate proper stock fit.
Makes all the difference in the world. You are right about that. Our father bought us a used little Stevens break open 20 gauge when my brother and I were in elementary school. I have never shot any firearm since that was that unpleasant to shoot. I had one of those. That gun was an absolutely miserable SOB.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,170
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,170 |
I feel so much better now.
6.5, and as the world turns.
Randy
NRA
Patriot Life Benefactor
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 31,412
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 31,412 |
Stupid fuucking chit to worry about. The 6.5 Creedmoor is a sweetheart of a cartridge. Don't fuucking like it, big fuucking deal.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580 |
So everything you read about this magical cartridge touts it as having significantly less recoil than other cartridges in the same category. Given that the most common factory hunting loads utilize 140 grain bullets, shouldn't it have pretty much the same felt recoil as something like the 7mm-08, .270 Win, and .308? Considering the same weight rifles, of course.
Maybe I thg has less recoil than some other "long-range" cartridges that would typically be used for long range target shooting and hunting? Where's the magic? So, are you saying you can't handle the 6.5 man-bun's recoil?????? 🤣
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 140
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 140 |
I paid little attention to the Creedmore until it was added to the available chamberings for the Steyr Scout. After considering the combination for several months, I concluded it was a perfect match and bought one. Recoil of this rifle seems virtually non existent.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,453
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,453 |
So everything you read about this magical cartridge touts it as having significantly less recoil than other cartridges in the same category. Given that the most common factory hunting loads utilize 140 grain bullets, shouldn't it have pretty much the same felt recoil as something like the 7mm-08, .270 Win, and .308? Considering the same weight rifles, of course.
Maybe I thg has less recoil than some other "long-range" cartridges that would typically be used for long range target shooting and hunting? Where's the magic? I think the misunderstanding is "category." As a hunting cartridge, you are correct. Physics is physics. That was not its design niche though, it was created as a longer range target cartridge. To get the same BC and velocity out of a 7mm, .30, or .338, you're necessarily heaving heavier bullets via larger powder charges. There too, physics is physics. Y' gotta settle on application before you can choose which "category" it fits in. Tom
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,169
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,169 |
(Blank) grains of lead, at (blank) fps, from a (blank) lb rifle is exactly the same, no matter what the head stamp says.
Marketing hits a home run sometime.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 21,713
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 21,713 |
In the realm of felt recoil I really don’t think many people fully appreciate proper stock fit.
Makes all the difference in the world. Very True. A good friend of mine had a Ruger number 1 in 458 Lott. He sold that rifle and picked up a Winchester 70 in the same caliber. Truly night and day difference. The Winchester was a pleasure to shoot, but the Ruger #1 was not.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580 |
(Blank) grains of lead, at (blank) fps, from a (blank) lb rifle is exactly the same, no matter what the head stamp says.
Marketing hits a home run sometime. 6.5 manbun is about getting there same velocity, better BC with a lighter, but longer bullet and less powder though. 😉
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,723
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,723 |
I have Hunted with a 6.5 Creedmoor for the last 5 years ...About 10 One shot kills from point blank to around 450 on Deer....It is just a pussy cat to shoot.....I actually look forward to checking my zero every year now.....I sold all my other rifles and now have four 6.5s with a model 7 H&S being my favorite followed by a Kimber hunter.........Also have Ruger Precision 6mm Creedmoor!!!!! It is a fun round to bust rocks out to 800 yrds.....
“When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580 |
I have Hunted with a 6.5 Creedmoor for the last 5 years ...About 10 One shot kills from point blank to around 450 on Deer....It is just a pussy cat to shoot.....I actually look forward to checking my zero every year now.....I sold all my other rifles and now have four 6.5s with a model 7 H&S being my favorite followed by a Kimber hunter.........Also have Ruger Precision 6mm Creedmoor!!!!! It is a fun round to bust rocks out to 800 yrds..... I put a Timney trigger in my 6mmCM Ruger precision. It's awesome!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,169
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,169 |
(Blank) grains of lead, at (blank) fps, from a (blank) lb rifle is exactly the same, no matter what the head stamp says.
Marketing hits a home run sometime. 6.5 manbun is about getting there same velocity, better BC with a lighter, but longer bullet and less powder though. 😉 Magic, obviously.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,914
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,914 |
A lot of what one feels when shooting any rifle is stock fit.
If it don't fit it will feel like it kicked harder.
I have a 308 that in the wood stock kicks like a mule but in a light weight plastic type of stock is a totally different critter.
Even when loading 300 sav loads in it.
|
|
|
|
|
232 members (30Gibbs, 10gaugemag, 1_deuce, 264mag, 16penny, 300_savage, 34 invisible),
2,817
guests, and
1,014
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,277
Posts18,467,631
Members73,927
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
