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"For the family?" "Don't understand?" No, it's easy to understand.

Comply yourself and your kids to a point that freedom for you and for them is gone forever. Do it "for the Family".

You are not going to be very helpful to them when your body's immune system is gone. They can then try to help you as you get sicker and sicker. It will be good "for them?"

And if you are so blind to see that one or two shots is not all there will ever be, do you think those coming shots are going to all go to you and not into them? Do you think you are the only guinea pig, or will you comply your kids health away too?

Yes...YOU WILL! It's all "for your family" that you surrender their future as well as your own.

No............it not.

It's all to keep YOU from being brave enough to take a stand for THEIR freedoms.

The truth is as evident as gravity and the sunrise. No amount of excuses are ever going to be believed by anyone with 2 or more brain cells.

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Originally Posted by szihn
"For the family?" "Don't understand?" No, it's easy to understand.

Comply yourself and your kids to a point that freedom for you and for them is gone forever. Do it "for the Family".

You are not going to be very helpful to them when your body's immune system is gone. They can then try to help you as you get sicker and sicker. It will be good "for them?"

And if you are so blind to see that one or two shots is not all there will ever be, do you think those coming shots are going to all go to you and not into them? Do you think you are the only guinea pig, or will you comply your kids health away too?

Yes...YOU WILL! It's all "for your family" that you surrender their future as well as your own.

No............it not.

It's all to keep YOU from being brave enough to take a stand for THEIR freedoms.

The truth is as evident as gravity and the sunrise. No amount of excuses are ever going to be believed by anyone with 2 or more brain cells.


From the guy that tells everyone not to pay federal income taxes but won’t post whether he does.


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I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.


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Doing it for my family.

You wouldn't understand.


I’m pretty sure add is speaking tongue in cheek here

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Originally Posted by szihn
"For the family?" "Don't understand?" No, it's easy to understand.

Comply yourself and your kids to a point that freedom for you and for them is gone forever. Do it "for the Family".

You are not going to be very helpful to them when your body's immune system is gone. They can then try to help you as you get sicker and sicker. It will be good "for them?"

And if you are so blind to see that one or two shots is not all there will ever be, do you think those coming shots are going to all go to you and not into them? Do you think you are the only guinea pig, or will you comply your kids health away too?

Yes...YOU WILL! It's all "for your family" that you surrender their future as well as your own.

No............it not.

It's all to keep YOU from being brave enough to take a stand for THEIR freedoms.

The truth is as evident as gravity and the sunrise. No amount of excuses are ever going to be believed by anyone with 2 or more brain cells.

This is 100% true, its not so much about today.
Its about 1 year, 10 years 20 years etc down the road.
Like I've said many times the patriots 250 years ago faced the same [bleep] but they didn't cave and obviously were willing to lay down there lives for use 250 years later.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.


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I don’t know of anyone that’s actually been fired yet

Just tidbits from alex jones’ links


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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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It is called "personal choice" because it is yours alone to make.

I beg to differ, when your being threatened with financial loss, denied freedom of movement. Your "personal choice" is being manipulated by someone else.


Exactly.

What the OP implies by his question is my biggest issue as well. If I give in on this one it’s only going to get easier to give in on others and there WILL be others.

Scary stuff coming down the pike and I don’t envy those in positions of authority who have to contend with this nonsense.

I emailed my Pres, COO, & head of HR yesterday. I work for a smallish publicly traded bank with about 800 employees. I told them that I’d be grateful if they’d do what they can legally to protect their employees from this tyranny. The HR guy responded that for as many emails they’d gotten an similar number in support of the mandates.

I am pretty sure I’m in the wrong on business.







The suckers who have already gotten the jab want to feel good about their decision and want your freedom of choice to suffer for it. Chkunt liberals, probably. Not to mention, the HR guy is probably lying.


Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.

Rehabilitation is way overrated.

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Calif Governor Newsom got booster jab #3 on Oct 27th...on October 29th his office abruptly cancelled plans for his attendance at the big climate summit (pretty much his signature issue) with the news release saying he had pressing family issues. Hmm. Anybody know what's really going on?


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.


I am in the same place. I am a rancher raising cattle so self-employed. My wife and I both receive social security and Medicare which may very well mandate the shot in the near future. It is a tough decision, thats why I dont think it should be mandated. Each person should be free to choose.
On the other hand there seem to be a lot of businesses looking for employees right now and they seem to be paying more so this is a good time to make a change.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.

Whats sad is 25% of the people think they know whats best for the other 75%

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.

Whats sad is 25% of the people think they know whats best for the other 75%


You think 25% of the posters here think the shots should be mandated? That’s a hell of a lot higher than I’d put it.


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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Calif Governor Newsom got booster jab #3 on Oct 27th...on October 29th his office abruptly cancelled plans for his attendance at the big climate summit (pretty much his signature issue) with the news release saying he had pressing family issues. Hmm. Anybody know what's really going on?


Maybe the dead pool thread will grow by a couple lines.........


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Gawd, wouldn't that be a classic if he had a clot or something? It'd make the sales pitch for the jab of the month a pretty tough sell.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.

Bgg, you're one of the people I was thinking of when I posted the questions. I respect most of the opinions you've posted on here, and I would really like to hear your answers to the op questions.

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I’d love it if someone somehow doxed pfizer and modernas BOD, upper management, and scientists on some social platform.



Project Veritas hit them pretty hard. Now the feds have raided them as they try to invent charges.


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Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.


Bgg, you're one of the people I was thinking of when I posted the questions. I respect most of the opinions you've posted on here, and I would really like to hear your answers to the op questions.


You bet man.

Why were you reluctant to get the jab prior to the mandate?

Multiple reasons. First, because they were all developed using tissue (cell lines whatever) from aborted baby(s). For me that taints it from the jump. Without getting deep into what that represents and bodes for the future, that terrifies and disgusts me. If they issued tags for abortionists I’d fill as many as I could.

Secondly, they are untested. New technology, and in this instance I’m not willing to be part of the experiment.

Thirdly, the negative side effects are being under-reported. There really is no neutral source of data on them, either supporting or refuting their efficacy and more importantly their side effects. I don’t believe anyone can honestly say it’s “safe” to get the shot.

Fourth, I don’t think I’ve ever had the flu. Never had a flu shot. Not to say I don’t get sick, but for whatever reason I don’t get flu bugs. And I don’t live in a bubble, to put it mildly. Why would I get a shot for something I probably won’t get?

If the govt is successful in getting compliance with this, do you think they won't start mandating other stuff to keep your job?

I believe strongly (not blind faith, but based on my interpretation of the available data) that even if I stood tall and made them fire me, other mandates down the road would force me to either become full on outlaw or get the damned thing anyway. Any other administration would’ve stopped already. This one has proven beyond a doubt they are not willing to temper their goals/positions by making compromises. They are going to do what they are going to do, and largely with the courts’ backing. Without it they will do it anyway. As to “other stuff” that falls in line with your next question.

Do you have any personal lines you won't cross if mandated to keep your job?

Absolutely. This lines involve other people much more than me. Although yes, this is a capitalization on my part, the only party affected is me. I’m not being asked to violate anyone else’s rights, constitutional or otherwise.


Parting comments, my wife supports me whatever I do. She flat told me 3 days ago to say fugk it and try and make a go at it doing other things. We’d make it work. But, as I posted before, my biggest hangup is the health insurance, and as “Dad” my foremost responsibility is to my kids. For me and my own personal situation, that means being able to pay a lot of medical bills.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.



It wont matter. I wont do it.



The census lady said she had the authority to put me in jail, and knew the sheriff personally.


I told her to send him out and put me in jail then.



I dont make good decisions. It would not be good if I was forced.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am still very glad I won't be forced to choose.


It wouldn't be good.



For now. smile

All the virtue signaling by “I’d never” from self employed or retired posters was funny. Now it’s just sad.



It wont matter. I wont do it.

The census lady said she had the authority to put me in jail, and knew the sheriff personally.


I told her to send him out and put me in jail then.


I dont make good decisions. It would not be good if I was forced.




Well the high sheriff, he told his deputy
Won't you go out and bring me Conrad

Well the high sheriff told his deputy
Won't you go out and bring me Conrad

Bring him dead or alive
Lord, Lord
Bring him dead or alive

Well the deputy, he told the high sheriff
I ain't gonna mess with Conrad

Well the deputy, he told the high sheriff
Says I ain't gonna mess with Conrad

Well he's a dangerous man
Lord, Lord
He's a dangerous man

Well then the high sheriff, he found Conrad
He was hidin' in the chill of Montana

Well the high sheriff found Conrad
He was hidin' in the chill of Montana

With his head hung down
Lord, Lord
With his head hung down

Well then the high sheriff, he told Conrad
He says Conrad I come to arrest you

Well the high sheriff told Conrad
Says Conrad I come to arrest you

And bring you dead or alive
Lord, Lord
Bring you dead or alive

Well then Conrad, he told the high sheriff
Says I never been arrested

Well Conrad told the high sheriff
Says I never been arrested

By no one man
Lord, Lord
By no one man

And then the high sheriff, he shot Conrad
Well, he shot him mighty big number

Well the high sheriff shot Conrad
Well he shot him with a mighty big number

With a forty-five
Lord, Lord
With a forty-five

Well then they taken old Conrad
Yes they laid him on the commissary gallery

Well they taken poor Conrad
And the laid him on the commissary gallery

He said my wounded side
Lord, Lord
My wounded side

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In it is death and all you seek
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