Attached is the first spreadsheet that I have. I am going to try to find a way to display it in full here, but I need to work on the formatting first.
Also, I don't know what the complete file may look like, as I was only sporadically receiving emails the last couple years. Any input and contribution to augment completeness is welcome!
I am not sure how to reach the entire groups (someone emailed me that there were actually two lists). If folks could help spread the word to all interested parties, I would also appreciate it.
All other comments and questions welcomed!
Last edited by RickBin; 11/19/19.
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I am looking for reloading data for 16 guage Fiocci 2 3/4" shells. I know they can be reloaded. I have the hulls, Claybuster WAA16 wads and was planning either 1 ounce or 1-1/8 ounce loads. I currently have Alliant Green Dot powder on hand, but was going to see if I can get either some Herco, Unique or Blue Dot. (Just depends on what is in stock on the reload shop.) However, I can't seem to find any data on the amount of powder to use with the WAA16 wads. I know there is data for 1 ounce loads with the Green Dot, but I can't seem to find what the powder charge is? I would just switch to the SP 16 wads, but I happen to have 1000 WAA16 wads that were given to me that I would like to use.
I have data for the SP 16 wads, but nothing for the other. Anyone have any information on powder charge for 1 ounce or 1-1/8 ounce loads using the Claybuster WAA 16 wad?
I'm looking for relatively low pressure 16 Gauge 7/8 ounce and 1 ounce loads (something suitable for European side by sides from the late pre-WWII and early post WWII era) for Winchester Compression Formed hulls and/or Remington black hulls, using Claybuster 0100-16 (WAA-16 equivalent) wads. I cannot find anything in any of my reloading manuals. As I have about 1000 of each version of the hulls and several thousand of the wads, I'd like to put them to use.
I have available Federal (my first choice as I have several thousand), Winchester, CCI and a small quantity of Remington 209 primers.
For available powders, I have Unique, Bullseye, PB, 7625, Red Dot, Green Dot, Blue Dot, 2400, Clays, Universal and International.
Well from an old IMR powder catalog PB, SR7625, SR4756 were the powders of choice for low pressure 1100-1200 fps field loads. They did list loads in a AA style hull with Remington R-16 wads which are no longer available. Rem has only made the SP-16 1 1/8oz wad for the last 30 years. The rem " black beauty hull" and older compression formed AA style ww hulls are really the only use for your AA or AA claybuster clone wads as they are.made for tapered hulls. You need bp or precision reloading wads or sp-16 for straight wall hull use for lower pressure loads ot you get to much blow by. Hit the gun shows look for those powders, probably wouldn't hurt to snag any 16 ga. Nitro cards and felt / fiber wads wad you see and older Lyman shotshell loading manuals too. 3rd edn. And older. Most loading data shows pressures in the 9600- 10700psi range for shot cup wads in plastic base wad hulls. One old ww powder catalog I have shows 1 oz 16 ga loads with Aa style hulls and AA as well as SP16 wads utilizing wsf,540 ,and 571 powders for 1165 fps in the 8300-8700 psi range. That was from a WW1994 powder catalog. Finding the data from old powder catalogs and the Lyman manuals will get you on the road. The factory 2.5" RST loads are spendy but work well under 35 yds. Good luck . MB
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Hi there, own two 16s. An old Steven’s pump and a newer citori. Just wanted to say thank you very much for the information. Waiting on my MEC 600 to arrive and trying to piecemeal components. Thanks again!
Hi all, first post. I joined specifically for the 16 gauge forums. I have asked this question on other forums/groups and received a lot of smart ass comments but no help. So here it goes, If a 2-3/4" recipe fits in a 2-1/2" shell, will pressure rise? I found a load in the lyman book that fits in a cut Federal hull. Its advertised at 7400PSI.
So the exact same weight in grains of tss isn't the same as the same weight of steel? So when you make duplex steel/ tss you don't remove a certain weight in grains of steel from the load and substitute tss in the amount of grains that was removed?
A member over in the 16 gauge society originally put the data together. I received a copy back around 2014 and since then took on the painstaking task to review each load. I color coded those loads I could verify and find a few along the way that had issues with data entry or maybe a disagreement on what wad was actually being called out. I have been known to share my copy with people privately as long as they understand using it is at your own risk.
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