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urban, read my last post.

A safety concern ALWAYS trumps a union contract...

That's all I've been saying the whole time, now we find out there were 2 armorers on set....that's some real incompetence for this to occur.

Thing is, did baldwin know that some of the crew members walked off of the set due to safety concerns. And if he did what did he do to address and rectify said concerns. If the arrogant POS chose to continue to film and not resolve the issues that's negligence. Any reasonable person would have questions about how it was all handled.

They also walked because of working conditions, available food and lodging, and pay checks not being issued...so there was a lot in play on set. I don't know who's to blame for the items, but the Union pulled a walk off to make their point.

Rocky, glad to see there is at least one clear headed person posting here.

Jim

Yeah, I get it. I'm mostly lampooning human nature and the inevitable finger-pointing scramble to dodge responsibility. I'll add that prohibiting an actor from performing a basic safety check because union dick-waving can obviously result in people being hurt, so maybe they ought to rethink that some, at least in some circumstances. It's a simple revolver not pyrotechnics, an electrical panel, or elaborate rigging. It doesn't require that specialized of a skill-set. Did the armorer hand Baldwin a verified firearm or was it lying on a table and assumed to have been verified at some previous point?

Also, I'm still unclear on whether Baldwin was under direction and the camera was rolling when he fired or if he was goofing off. I haven't chased down every news blip on this.

It sounds like the entire production was basically a goatfuck.

On a side note, I have a sneaking suspicion that most of these peoples' reality bears little resemblance to reality.

So an actor can point a 'prop gun' at someone and squeeze trigger?
This is acceptable?

thank you Rocky

I don't care anymore. The woman is dead, her family will get paid and nobody is going to jail. It was a freak accident. That's all. There have been a zillion shooting scenes over the many years and what, two of these accidents?

If Baldwin was half as smart he he believes himself to be,he would have taken a course in gun safety sponsored by the NRA.This would have instilled in him the safety guidelines,that would have prevented the death of this cinema-tographer.

Instead he chose to damn an organization whose sole purpose is to protect our second amendment,which is still the law of the land.

Dumb-ass Baldwin aimed the gun,thumbed back the hammer and then pulled the trigger which resulted in the death of this woman.F him and the horse he rode in on.He's solely responsible for her death.

It is what an actor is expected to do in rehearsal or a take. It's a movie site .

No. Aim to the side or high. Unmanned camera. Staff move to safe zone before action.

Beside the point though. A blank can propel any object in the bore. Gun safety is gun safety.

Union members walked off the set of “Rust” hours before Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed the film’s cinematographer — and cited “poor gun safety” as one of the reasons for the move, according to a text message obtained by The Post.

An unidentified woman claiming to be a union member on the Baldwin-produced movie said the crew was upset about their hotels and poor COVID protocols — but most worried about an overall lack of safety on the set, especially gun safety.

“The entire camera crew walked off that morning for that exact reason,” the person wrote in part of the text obtained by The Post from an IATSE union member. “Last night we wrote resignation letters. We cited everything from lack of payment for three weeks, taking our hotels away despite asking for them in our deals, lack of COVID safety (and on) top of that, poor gun safety! Poor on set safety, period! We wrote about this exact issue last night and walked this morning because of it!”
https://nypost.com/2021/10/23/union...-over-safety-issues-text-message-claims/
Also,

The woman said that the cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, 42, and another member were the only ones who remained on the set. Hutchins was a member of IATSE Local 600 and had reportedly been vocal about wanting better safety conditions for the crew prior to her death.

Baldwin killed her for her union association. Lol

In the words of Harry Truman, the buck stops here. I couldn't care less what the union rules are or are not. The fact is baldwin shot someone and now that person is dead. No matter who you are or where you are the safety of any firearm is entirely in your hands. Maybe these "rules" they work by need to be changed or maybe Hollywood needs to be forced to not make movies with guns in them being used by the most vile puke we have ever seen while making billions then donating some of that money to the very party that wants to strip us of every God given right we have. As has been stated here before, "show the enemy no quarter".

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