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I agree with the last part, but I don't think he's doing it intentionally.

I really think he is just the result of his brain damage.


And being raised in West Virginia.

I am not steeped in Biblical knowledge and often appreciate some of these discussions. I know a member who I trust very much in these matters but he has not chimed in. I did not watch the entire video but find hard for me to understand how some things are reconciled, at least to the point where I could comfortably explain it to someone else.
Jesus was in the fire, Jesus was born Son of God then Jesus was infused with the holy spirit at baptism.

Other parts that eluded me in the past included how could he say Why hast thou forsaken me - although I have gotten a pretty good answer on that one.

I found this article that refutes Jesus being around prior to birth. Not sayin it is right or I agree but wonder at how some points might be countered. In part - if Jesus had to be truly human.....could he be eternal?
Was Jesus Son of God from eternity

You may have something there Kent, I hadn't considered "Purposely".

No Way x 2...
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And a buncha schmucks have fallen for his schitt also...


LOL!!!

Slumlord just blew The little Happy Camper Parakeet up on that other thread.


Been telling Happy D Bag, that Slumlord has been lulling him into a false sense of comfort all along.

The answer about whether Jesus was Son Of God eternally is answered in John 1:1-3, 14.

Consider Verse 14. It reads, "The Word BECAME flesh."

Also if we look at Colossians 1:15. "The first born of all creation."

Don't forget Revelation 3:14. Jesus is "the Beginning of the creation of God."

The Word of God IS eternal. "God in the flesh" is the manifestation of the invisible Spirit of God.

Yes.

I think civil debate and discussion on these threads is a good thing too.

The doctrine of the Trinity wasn’t ‘formalized’ until the 4th century. The individual followers of Jesus likely had their own ideas about this matter, just as they do nowadays.

Matthew’s Gospel, and it’s debatable when it was written, describes Jesus calling on His followers to make disciples of and baptize all nations in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

John’s Gospel, and it’s debatable when it was written, uses the phrase "the Word", and that phrase is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated by other verses later in the same chapter. So, it’s “in the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.”

Whether or not the earliest individual followers of Jesus believed in the Trinity is a subject for debate and discussion. One thing is certain though, there was clearly dissension and disagreement among the 1st century body of believers regarding certain theological points, just as there is nowadays.

The fact that dissension and disagreement exists today, just as it did back in the earliest days of Christianity, among the body of believers is not surprising. Another thing is certain too, it didn’t then, nor does it now, diminish the Gospel itself.

I think I get you Ringman. Thanks for responding. I am still fuzzy on the role of his baptism though. Hoping others will chime in too.

That thinking right there is one of the many reasons why Christianity is the antichrist. That is what religion/Christianity teaches and it is one of the biggest lies and false teaching ever perpetrated on mankind. How can anyone teach that or even believe that with all of the scriptures saying that God, Jesus, the KIngdom dwell within you, along with the verses that confirm that you are the children of God and always will be. And to think they teach that with a straight face.
Ever wonder why God told Moses his name was I Am that I Am? Here's a really big hint for you. Go look in the mirror and say God's name.............I dare ya. Then you'll know who you are.

He feels the same way about EVERYBODY. No less for some than others, and no more for some than others. EVERYBODY is someone that Jesus died for.

Thank you, that sign is in Pastor Missy's office.

I believe, we don't need to have the Bible memorized, just simple even childlike Faith.

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities —  all things were created through him and for him.
17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

While Jesus is called the firstborn of all creation, at the same time he created everything, both on heaven and earth. He couldn't create himself so he had to have been there to create everything else.

Faith is not needed, unless of course your a religious person.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Read ?

Sold ?

Who gives a damn?

Authorized by who ?

Authorised by Crappy himself of course. All other versions are filed on his retrobate list.

You guys are making this too complicated. 23 and me...duh!


mike r

The world is complicated.....life is complicated.