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Friends, I am doing another run of +P heavy duty .45 ACP outdoors oriented/bear defense ammo. This is produced in excellent Starline brass.








This ammo is a 250 grain hardcast flatpoint, with a large flat meplat. It is pretty warm for a 45 ACP, averaging 956 FPS out of my 5" Les Baer.








A lot of .45 Colt/.44 Special revolver shooters shoot a load that is a duplicate of this. This load was tested in a Glock 21, Glock G30S compact, 2 different 5" 1911s, an S&W 4506, and an HK USP.

I have to say that this has quickly become my favorite heavy duty .45 load. If I was stuck with one "all around" hunting/defense load, this would definitely be it.

I currently have 5-100 round boxes (MTM hardside plastic boxes) ready to go.


These will ship to you door for $105. That works out to about $40 per 50 rounds after shipping and insurance.




I was discussing this load elsewhere and this is essentially a duplicate of the Linebaugh classic .45 Colt hunting load.

Here is a cut and paste from that discussion:



I think most people do not recognize/understand the capability of the .45. Part of that has to do with the fact that outside of custom manufacturers, there is almost no ammo available for the .45 ACP that is allowing it to be used to its full potential.

The 10mm is recognized for its ability, and it has a well deserved reputation. That said people really do not know much about the capabilities of a proper .45 load. Oddly enough, as this is being written, I am loading what I consider to be the ideal .45 ACP load that is appropriate for .45s in proper working order/properly maintained, with good springs.

That is a 250 grain hard cast flat point at a shade past 950 FPS.

In a bunch of testing the load averaged 956 out of 5" barreled 1911s.


People associate powerful .45 loads with revolvers, not autos...

Many recognize the power of the excellent .45 Colt.




John Linebaugh wrote the following:


I have personally taken about 10 antelope and 1 mule deer with a .45 Colt. My boys have taken around 6 antelope and 5 mule deer with their .45 Colts. They use a 4 3/4" Colt SA and the handload is a 260 Keith cast at 900 fps. This load will shoot lengthwise of antelope and mule deer at 100 yards.

A 45 caliber 260grain hardcast @ 900 FPS has a well deserved reputation as an excellent game stopper. Using the standard USPSA power factor formula of bullet weight x velocity divided by 1K you get a power factor of 234.

In .the same 45 caliber (this time a semi auto platform) we are launching a 250 grain bullet at 956 for a power factor of 239.

Basically you are getting the same type of power, simply in a much easier to shoot semi auto platform.

Personally I don't care much about "formulas", I just use it as an easy reference for folks to compare.

The fact is that a hot, heavy hardcast .45 ACP is a rather formidable setup, and one that I carry often in the mountains.

This last hiking season I spent a substantial amount of time in grizzly and black bear country and this is the load I carried when I carried a .45, which was quite frequently. I tend to switch between the 10mm and the .45, but I find that the 1911 gets carried most often due to the fact it conceals better for those trips into town.

Anyways, as stated above, the price is $105 per 100 round box (shipped ground UPS). You must be 21. All the regular rules apply. No shipping to restricted locations, I will not ship to AK due to the extremely expensive shipping costs. It is your responsibility to know your local laws.

I have 5 FIVE boxes ready to go at the moment.

Please advise how many you would like, followed by a PM.

Thank you!

I’ll take 100!

400 rds of .45 ACP left.


Cheers!

Sounds interesting.

Mark me down for 100 please.

300 rounds left!

The answer is yes.

Mackay, I'll take 200 rds. You can PM me, as before, if any changes in payment info.

Thanks,
LD

Mackay, interested in your stats out of a Glock 21.

I’ll take the last 100 rounds. PM to follow.

The last is sold, but will expect to have another run done this afternoon.

Thanks all.

Let me find that for you.

Here it is:

some data: 250 grain hardcast

Baer 1911 5" BBL velocity avg: 956

S&W 4506 5" BBL velocity avg: 958

HK USP 4.41" BBL Velocity avg: 932

Glock 21 4.61" BBL velocity avg 920

Glock 30S 3.78" BBL velocity avg 861.

n the G30S with its skinny slide, the rounds were pretty snappy in terms of felt recoil.

While I did some T&E using a G30S, I think this is best reserved for larger, full sized platforms. The G30S with its skinny slide is a handful.

If I was going to use these in my own G30S, I would get a heavier recoil spring.

The Glock 21 gobbles them up, as does the HK USP.

Mackay, thanks for that. I'm guessing they'll run pretty good out of my 625-2 .45 ACP N-frame, also.

Oh heck yes!


A good friend of mine killed a cow elk a couple years back using his M1917 revolver and .45 Auto Rim brass. It was featured in an article in American Handgunner online by Tank Hoover. The load he was using was about 50 FPS slower, at 900 FPS, but it gives you an idea of what a good shooter can do.

Here is a link to that article:

https://americanhandgunner.com/gear/cross-country-cast-bullet-cross-off/

Excellent article! I'm a huge fan of the Lyman 454424 and powdercoat too. Do you have any plans to offer ammo loaded with PC'd lead bullets in the future?

Thanks, Dinny

Great article, Mac! Thanks for sharing.

I am actually going to offer these 250 grain +p .45s with coated bullets very shortly.

Friends,

I have 500 more rounds, (5-100 round MTM boxes) ready to go.

Thanks!

Awesome! I think PC is the great equalizer. It eliminates the need to run a hard alloy to avoid leading and it's more forgiving if the bullets aren't sized exactly to fit your throat.

300 just sold.

200 rounds remain.

I'll take 100. PM incoming.